Other Who will be the first to build a hull out of carbotanium?

[SuperJETT]

Carbon fiber/titanium weave, nuf said.

 

[TOMtoledo]

Looks like someone got some work to do!!

 

[tightithrash]

im pretty sure Nick Barton is already on the move with that stuff from the mention of it in his new hull purchase deal for ozfreeride.com forum members. read it.

Ozfreeride – Krash Industries Special Offer

To celebrate the European launch of the JB1 at the first round of the IFWA world freestyle surf competition in France June 4-6 Krash Industries in conjunction with Australia's premier freeride website www.ozfreeride.com has made it even more affordable to purchase your own JB1 designed and developed by Nick Barton.
If you are a registered member of ozfreeride and you order before the 4th of June 2011 you can own a JB1 freestyle hull in gel coat black or white for $5500.00 or if you want it fully wrapped and turfed its yours for $6900.00
The above offer also applies to the all new Krash Industries flat water hull – The FOOTROCKET, due for release in June 2011.
The Footrocket, Krash Industries dedicated flat-water hull will be available in standard and exotic glass and foam core composites, including Carbon, Kevlar and Titanium and feature adjustable footholds, slimline hood, and a proven hull design and configuration.
The overall length of the FR will be 1.8m and in the standard glass model weigh 35Kgms. The top of the range Footrocket will come in at around 22kgms.
Unfortunately for the counterfeiters they are going to have to wait for photos until the hull is on the water!!!!!!!!

 

[wrighteous]

interesting!

 

[Waternut]

As a structural guy, I'd just like to state that carbon fiber is incredibly stiff and titanium is very pliable by comparison to each other. Therefore, mixing titanium and carbon fiber together is like sticking a bunch of rubber bands on your handle pole and expecting them to prevent the pole from breaking... The only thing I can see titanium do in this instance is take erosion/chaffing wear better.

 

[#ZERO]

Forget the hull...... I'd take the car.

Did you ever see the lap run around the track on that Top Gear show?

I believe the car was around 10-seconds faster than the FXX-1 which had the previous record and the acceleration was just phenomenal to watch.

 

[tightithrash]

As a structural guy, I'd just like to state that carbon fiber is incredibly stiff and titanium is very pliable by comparison to each other. Therefore, mixing titanium and carbon fiber together is like sticking a bunch of rubber bands on your handle pole and expecting them to prevent the pole from breaking... The only thing I can see titanium do in this instance is take erosion/chaffing wear better.

well tell that to the idiots at Zonda...

 

[Idok]

As a structural guy, I'd just like to state that carbon fiber is incredibly stiff and titanium is very pliable by comparison to each other. Therefore, mixing titanium and carbon fiber together is like sticking a bunch of rubber bands on your handle pole and expecting them to prevent the pole from breaking... The only thing I can see titanium do in this instance is take erosion/chaffing wear better.

adding some flex too it is the BEST aspect

 

[X2guy]

He actually soiled himself in a car. Hope this doesn't catch on in the jetski industry or there are going to be a lot of stinky riders. or a few more

 

[Tyler Zane]

As a structural guy, I'd just like to state that carbon fiber is incredibly stiff and titanium is very pliable by comparison to each other. Therefore, mixing titanium and carbon fiber together is like sticking a bunch of rubber bands on your handle pole and expecting them to prevent the pole from breaking... The only thing I can see titanium do in this instance is take erosion/chaffing wear better.

its no worst than carbon/kevlar weave. the kevlar adds no structural support but can take a good beating. this is why i scratch my head when i see people using it to re-enforce the inside of their hull with it.

 

[eeerieski]

Carbotanium would yield a tougher hull than straight up carbon. Carbotanium, while not being as stiff, will absorb more energy before breaking. Say you side pancake. Carbon would bend a little and snap, carbotanium/kevlar would bend alot but be less likely to snap. Note this is linear deformation and the hull will spring back to its original shape.

 

[Waternut]

Carbotanium would yield a tougher hull than straight up carbon. Carbotanium, while not being as stiff, will absorb more energy before breaking. Say you side pancake. Carbon would bend a little and snap, carbotanium/kevlar would bend alot but be less likely to snap. Note this is linear deformation and the hull will spring back to its original shape.

I agree it would be "tougher" but it will not be stronger. Don't want anyone to get confused. Just remember that even loaded together, the titanium doesn't really pick up much load until the carbon is at or close to the breaking point. Again, like attaching a rubber band to a steel cable. The other big difference is the way cars and airplanes load parts and the way jetski's load parts. In a car or airplane, parts are designed with either compression, tension, or shear. In this type of design the fibers take the load and the resin just holds it all together. In a jetski, there are too many load variations due to the impacts via landing and pancaking. In this design, the resin is taking the bulk of the load and the fibers are just helping to keep it all together.

I'm not saying the concept is crap. However, with any hybrid material, there are certain advantages and drawbacks. I'm just very skeptical that the advantages will outweigh the drawbacks especially in our sport but we can't progress unless people try new things so more power to those that are willing to try.

 

[2Screwed]

This was on Popular Science today. Looks very promising. LINK

Compared to steel, the prepared GP is six times lighter, five to six times lower density, two times harder with 10 times higher tensile strength and 13 times higher bending rigidity

 

[5810]

whats next unobtanium lol, braappp

 

[baxt3r]

Adamantium pole brackets.

 

[Tyler Zane]

Holmium pumps. ya thats right, LASERS

 

[snowxr]

I hear BUN freestyle is using uranium in their new hulls.

 

[Sharky]

give me a Carbon and quad glass mix any day over just carbon, every carbon boat i have owned in the surf cracks and splits and delaminates , where a good quad or dual bias glass boat has gone the distance...i suppose it must be useed where it is as my boss says "fit for purpose " 1-10 foot landing on flat water are OK but 10-30 foot wave landings are just brutal....

 

[McDog]

Actually BUN us using uranium in their pumps. That is why they have to keep them covered with lead blankets when no one is riding them.

 

[DK-Freestyle]

Actually BUN us using uranium in their pumps. That is why they have to keep them covered with lead blankets when no one is riding them.

Max hulls were covered with towels.. not Bun's. The Max hulls were hiding their pump set ups, they had some trick set up that they were hiding, doubt they were hiding it because of the material.