SNELL ratings mean a lot more than DOT. Any serious motor sports organization that checks helmets is looking for a current SNELL rating and could care less about what the DOT thinks.nope, DOT is not the main factor. DOT on top of being super light and compact = win. Never seen a Bell helmet that is DOT approved that is light and compact enough to wear on the water.
Well they both meet DOT and ECE standards which is a lot more stringent than just wearing a helmet made for Kayaks and Bicycles. Same with the Thor MX helmets I have reviewed (not snell approved, but DOT and ECE).SNELL ratings mean a lot more than DOT. Any serious motor sports organization that checks helmets is looking for a current SNELL rating and could care less about what the DOT thinks.
I've been using an old Thor MX helmet I got off ebay 5 years ago for like $50 or less. All the pads come out so I can clean them. My only issue was the steel rivets for the chin straps rusted out, so I replaced them with stainless screws and nuts. Yes it's heavy, but fits my face tightly and I've not had any head injuries wearing it, though there are a few times I hit my head so hard on the ski while wearing the helmet that I may not be here anymore if I wasn't wearing it...
Good info, Chris!Well they both meet DOT and ECE standards which is a lot more stringent than just wearing a helmet made for Kayaks and Bicycles. Same with the Thor MX helmets I have reviewed (not snell approved, but DOT and ECE).
ECE ratings see below:
If you’re not comfortable with a helmet that only meets the US Government DOT standard, what do you look for? Historically, American riders have looked for a Snell label but the world is getting smaller and we now have other viable alternatives. The ECE 22.05 standard is used in over 50 European countries, including Germany, a country known for taking a hard line on personal protection.
Helmets certified to the ECE 22.05 standard are approved for competition events by AMA, CCS, FIM, Formula-USA and WERA and are chosen by nearly every professional motorcycle racers competing in world championship road racing, motocross and off road events, including the ultimate sport of Moto GP. Helmets that are certified to both DOT and ECE 22.05 offer the highest level of realistic protection with the added benefit of light weight for day-long comfort and rider performance.
It's a standard for mountain bike helmets. Many have been perfectly fine with using MTB helmets......but, maybe that helmet designed around a heavier machine and higher speed accidents might be better insurance and money well spent, who knows. I hate paying for auto insurance, until I get an accident......then I'm glad I have it. All in what ever you are comfortable with.what is the ASTM F1952 safety standard (Giro)? You guys are starting to make me regret buying the cipher....lol
Are you riding with the visor? I've experienced the same but usually 1 or 2 tears the visor off and then it doesn't happen.I am about to quit wearing one if I can't find something low profile that doesn't jerk my head back on big failed rolls.
I can go in upside down from 15' with out a helmet on and now worries.....but God forbid I am not tucked perfectly with my 661 on.....BAM...stinger! (Arm and hand go numb for a minute) A few of those a season add up!
We need some old leather football low pro helmets!