Custom/Hybrid differnent total loss systems

grezzmky

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Saint Louis MO
Im sure it is on here but i am going with total loss this year and im not sure what I need. is the 1100 bux for the new dual chanel one the way to go? or look for a used single chanel kit? what about 500 bux for a CLEAN one that says PRO SERIES II on it?
 

Matt_E

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A total loss system is going to cost you some money, no matter which way you slice it.
Buying a used system can be a crap shoot. If the person that owned it before you knew what he was doing, you have a good system.
If not, then you need to put many hours of work into it to make it right.
If you've never installed one before, perhaps buying a brand-new system is the better way to go.
You might look into the ATP Total Loss system, too. Installation is a bit easier.
 

yamanube

This Is The Way
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Also consider the cost of wiring it all up (if it is not already set up) Most of the reliability comes from how it is assembled. It's worth it to have somebody who knows what they are doing wire it up, and that can be pretty expensive. I like the looks of the ATP setup the best, clean/easy install.
 
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Matt_E

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What did Art say about the ATP

I was one of the first of his customers to run that ignition. It's worked out well.

was he able to set u up with a timing curve?

Of course.
The ATP is a bit more flexible in programming a curve than the MSD unit is.
The downside is lower spark energy and wasted spark (though you get that with every MSD except for the dual channel unit as well)
 

Waternut

Customizing addict
Location
Macon, GA
Why does everyone automatically discredit the single channel total loss systems like they are piles of garbage? Sure the multi channel units can have better timing curves and there's less wasted energy but are you going to feel the difference between 30k volts and 40k volts or even the 2-3° safer timing advantages that a multi channel can give you through the rpm range? Would it be worth the $1000 extra you'd have to pay to get a new multi channel over a used single channel?

The multi channel systems are the best along with the ATP systems and they are the most reliable...no question about it. I just think sometimes we have to think about value for money and the single channel is way ahead of the old analog systems but not really that far behind the multichannel.
 
The digital systems use drastically less battery power. Plus the start-retard feature is nice. The analog system needs a really strong starter and a good battery to start up without a backfire.

$500 is too much for a Pro Series 2, but a well setup analog will give you 90% of the performance for 1/3rd the price. Especially if you can find a complete one with nice wiring.

Installation is where most total losses fail. Take your time, do it right or pay someone like JSS to do it right.

My opinion in a nutshell, if you are trying to squeeze every possibly HP out of a big motor go with a new system otherwise the older analog systems work, just keep a charger (and spare battery ) handy.

Aaron
 
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