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- painesville,ohio
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Good to see Stone's new hull has revived interest in 550's.
Good to see Stone's new hull has revived interest in 550's.
Revolver
- Thread starter QJS
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naticen
Site Supporter
- Location
- wilmington, nc
I just got the name today. Revolver like a badarse gun but also like its purpose in life, flipping/revolving.
- Location
- Lake Havasu City, AZ USA
stanton
High on jetskis.
- Location
- atascadero,ca
just need to point out how flawed your logic is, because you not getting it. first, talking loads of crap on a purpose built flatwater freestyle ski like its the next surf ski is just pointless. this ski was obviouly not made for rec surf riding, leave it alone. second, i know that this ski, just like all shortened and modified skis, are much harder to ride than a huge sj. want a real challenge? try committing to something thats tiny. third, you need to try to be more open minded to new tech, this could be your dream ski, minus the tray of course lol, but you would never know because youve committed to your longhulls so much you dont even care. when was the last time you progressed?
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
lol i wasnt talking about this hull i was responding to matts comment about a Sj being unpleasant to ride if u actually read it..matt wasn't even responding to me to begin with..
if i saw a ski i liked better than a sj id be all for it but im not interested in riding anything that limits your ability to carry speed and lay over on its rail..ie: too short and wide
the FP1 hull is something id love to try..a little shorter, a little more rocker..im not opposed to a different ski but something that was "designed" for flatwater freestyle isnt going to be it... if those skis are helping peoples surfriding then id hate to see what it would be like if they were riding SJs lol...
and to answer your question i feel like i get better everytime i ride..i certainly ride better than i did 3 years ago when i stopped for a year or whatever...your progression might be taking an extra hand off your bar but mine is getting the ski that much more upside down when i hit the lip or getting an extra turn or two in on a wave that i might have just hit once before...i can do the same stuff now on 10ft waves i could only do on 2ft waves before...plus im more interested in making what i can do look good instead of hucking some ugly trick..
even if i wasnt able to get any better at riding it wouldnt be my ski holding me back..just watch an old vid of JK..
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wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
wait so now im confused...
your riding that ski because its harder to ride? a sj was too easy? lol give me a break..
i thought all that extra rocker was to help you get deep and steep?
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CD155MX
Squirrel!!!
- Location
- Alta Loma, CA
fftopic:Soooooo about that new Revolver hull.......
stanton
High on jetskis.
- Location
- atascadero,ca
well, i was talking about your conduct in this whole thread. you talk so much about stuff that should be completely irrelevant to you, kinda frustrating to watch.
keep it oldschool, if you dont, who will?:wavey:
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
No what's frustrating is to watch a sport which was one badass turn into a styleless fmx show meets ballet on the water where it dosnt even matter if you actually ride away from the trick or not..but that also irrelevant as long as you bust big BRO!!
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
They don't even put trays in those things anymore. Might as well just put some snowboard bindings in the back and call it good..so lame..
Don't forget until a few months ago u were the super jets #2 fan behind me..
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Did you not see that one Russian ski at WF last year? It did have something akin to snowboard bindings.
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
i did unfortunately..
and really for what those guys are doing thats prob a good way but you know if those caught on at the pro level they would be in everybodys ski to help them learn submarines and nose stabs...
i have a feeling in a few years you might not even be able to call them standups..you will just lay on the hood until its time to backflip and then just pull the trigger lol
stan will be running em in the surf im sure...720s or bust BRO!
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jetkid
Paul Lambers
- Location
- Grand Rapids MI
I love how you guys keep trying to compare a formula 1 car to a monster truck... they are two f@#$^g different things! get over it!
- Location
- so cal
i agree with you man. you cant compare oldschool tricks to new school tricks at all. its like a night and day difference. what i want to see (i actually started a thread on it) is the two blend. if lee stone comes out and does a huge flip/ roll/ helicopter/ or whatever, but then follows it with a rodeo sub on the hood! that would be incredible to watch!
stanton
High on jetskis.
- Location
- atascadero,ca
dont act like i dont agree with you, because i do, almost everything you say is right. here you got some issues that your classic mentality isnt catching up with. flatwater has always been how you describe it, and before then it was even worse. lately with hulls like this it has became more than a flip contest, and a pro will make it look easy enough for you to talk bad about. im stoked to see land locked riders doing more than going fast on the hood, but its not anything we know about so let them go. ive done a fw flip, and a 155mag with 1200cc's driving it is no joke. the things they are doing now are so far off the radar, its impossible to comprehend. and by doing, i mean landing it. i think its funny you say if you saw a hull you liked you would try it, its not the hull, its the rider. you could do everything you do now, and be able to take it to the next level, on any hull you practice on. you try to prove this by riding a oitdated 550, but its not going to help without the steering responce of a new hull. i loved my sj, but its size, strength, and steering was holding me back from how i wanted to be riding. when i do push to 7 i wont be using footholds haha.. dont forget, the first person i ever saw kick into footholds and do a flatwater roll, was you
wydopen
onthepipe
- Location
- Goleta the Goodland
u dont think some hulls do things that others cant?
there is no way i could ride the way i like to ride my superjet on 90% of the new skis out there...super wide skis with wings on the side arnt going to lay over at 110deg and thats what i like to do wether people think its lame or easy or not..a super short ski isnt going to let u ride pinned for an hour..aside from the Fr2 and the og superfreak which hulls are geared in anyway for allaround riding? your skis not its a full on flatwater boat...the ability for a ski to spin around on its axis dosnt mean it has better steering response..my ski turns on a dime and it can do it at speed..not to mention how are you going to blast the lip when the pump is behind your foot instead of under it?..ive never seen anybodys surfriding get better when they started riding a flatwater ski
for full pro level flatwater of course they are going to run skis purpose built for that..the difference is that people that are nowhere near that level end up riding/wanting those skis and an entire generation of ski riders is going to loose the basic fundamentals of riding a jetski because they are riding skis that only do one thing...and then next thing you know they are in the surf...and fyi i wasnt referring to flatwater guys not landing their tricks i was referring to surf riding..
you could do all your 540s and more on your superjet without crippling your ability to drag a shoulder.. all u have to do is find a bigger wave and pull the trigger harder..sure your ski prob rotates faster but its going to look allot better when your 10ft higher doing the same trick..
and yes me being able to fw roll a 300lb square with a 6m6 motor just shows that u dont need to drop 30k on a ski as half the people ive seen with those skis cant even do that
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- Location
- Valley Springs, CA
First thing I did on my 550 was lay my ass down at 30 mph and use the water to my advantage to throw a fat carve. We thought it was the coolest thing ever and felt like badasses. Then got my superjet and still did the same thing but a little more aerial tricks. Rok, STILL can throw a carve down, ride on the hood, run it 100% pinned across the lake over boat ripples and what not then lay it over to a 180 degree turn. And now aerial 180s, sometimes 360s. Stabs, attempted flips and soon completed flips. Here's the types of skis requiring the most amount of skill to ride: 550 first, am hull second, and superjet/sxr by far the easiest. This doesn't mean the generation is ruined by spending 20,000 to get upside down at 15 ft. Everyone's different, man, and assuming that all short boats can't run wide open is not right. My rok is 10" shorter and 4" wider then a superjet and I'm pinned a lot of times. Hell I feel I've lost my skill (may have not) so I decided to really challenge my self and flat deck a 550 for surf. Just ride have fun this is a great community whether ur bitchin, getting along, or staying quiet. Keep it alive. (great looking hull by the way)
- Location
- Stockton CA
^^^^ never seen a 360 from u zzylstra......
- Location
- Valley Springs, CA
U don't have enough commitment to jump off ur baby's toy and watch!!! Haha
- Location
- Stockton CA
Wooooowwwwwwww