Now, the way Buzzard described doing rolls on SJ's, I use to do the same thing as well, Call it a Power Roll. Not using a setup wake to get your lift but using the offset momentum of the ski to hit the water and then literally bounce it round into a roll. But not describe it in a condescending tone. You can get hurt doing anything. How you think I got my nickname. Was going for a huge nose stab and came out of the footholds. ski went inverted, pole extended down, I split the pole with my legs. Nuts got all swollen up, drank alot of beer that night, afterwards I said "Call me Big Kahuna".......... Someone said, "You mean Cajones"............... I said, maybe, but I like Big Kahuna.......... Name stuck.