True girdle kit for ADA

[Jr.]

As for the Pro Riders I personally sponsor........ All Freestyle/Freeride
Jeremy Parr, Taylor Curtis, Pancake Pete Schite plus a whole list of Am guys.
Take Pancake for instance, He has documented over the past several seasons, the reliability of my motors using ADA heads, He literaly beat the snot out of them, without as much as a single failure of any kind.
I personally don't sponsor riders to win races, I support them to test & make what I do better. If you are looking to see what teams & riders have used & won on ADA, I suggest you contact Bookes or Mike at ADA............ Enough saiid!

While it's entirely true, I build 90% Yamaha based motors, for freeride, not race. It is proven, the ADA girdle set-up for the Yamaha twin is the very best! Period!

Now what you are saying about the Kawi 800 heads? You have me thinking. I currently have a motor from a region 7 pro/am rider here that has experianced the same failure you are describing? To this point I havn't determined the bearing failure is assiocated with the head (TBM by the way) I like looking into these situations as you are doing. I will be spending some time in the near future doing just that. Steve, if you care to share some info or input, I may be able to lead you in a better/differant direction. Please foward contact info, or feel free to contact me directly...............

ski ya, Paul

 

[Don 79 TA]

i can add that i've been happy with the ADA girdled head on the ski that Paul setup for me.
Used it on the 701 limited, VERY high Compression 753 (235psi), and the current lamey setup now (again high compression) 215

i also have the ADA head on her SXR with no issue, although it's not the girdled head, running 185 psi

 

[douglee25]

I'd also be willing to help with CAD drawings or FEA analysis if it's needed. This topic interests me. :smile: Let me know.

Doug

 

[Big Kahuna]

Hey Steve, is one of those women racers Duv???

 

[Idok]

As for the Pro Riders I personally sponsor........ All Freestyle/Freeride
Jeremy Parr, Taylor Curtis, Pancake Pete Schite plus a whole list of Am guys.
Take Pancake for instance, He has documented over the past several seasons, the reliability of my motors using ADA heads, He literaly beat the snot out of them, without as much as a single failure of any kind.
I personally don't sponsor riders to win races, I support them to test & make what I do better. If you are looking to see what teams & riders have used & won on ADA, I suggest you contact Bookes or Mike at ADA............ Enough saiid!

While it's entirely true, I build 90% Yamaha based motors, for freeride, not race. It is proven, the ADA girdle set-up for the Yamaha twin is the very best! Period!

Now what you are saying about the Kawi 800 heads? You have me thinking. I currently have a motor from a region 7 pro/am rider here that has experianced the same failure you are describing? To this point I havn't determined the bearing failure is assiocated with the head (TBM by the way) I like looking into these situations as you are doing. I will be spending some time in the near future doing just that. Steve, if you care to share some info or input, I may be able to lead you in a better/differant direction. Please foward contact info, or feel free to contact me directly...............

ski ya, Paul

kinda funny...

I was walking by your trailer at daytona freeride on sunday...You were working on pancakes boat....All I heard was :

Paul: "Pete, did you run this boat after you sank it yesterday???"

Pete: "WHAT!?! uh...yeah, for a couple of minutes on the hose"


Paul: :grumble:


same look on your face and everything....:haha:

 

[Big Kahuna]

you want to know the true test of pauls motors when it comes to Pete?????

Paul is a gazillion miles away and pete has tools......... and it is still running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bwaaahaahaahaahaaa

 

[Jr.]

you want to know the true test of pauls motors when it comes to Pete?????

Paul is a gazillion miles away and pete has tools......... and it is still running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bwaaahaahaahaahaaa

Hey, Everyone should have an Illegitimate ADD step child like Pete.......!! :bigeyes:
Keeps you young at heart, thats for sure!!!! :woot:

I, Know, I Know....... Who really is the test subject here? :swordfight:

Don't worry buddy, I wouldn't want anyone else!!!

 

[duckman1]

Hey Steve, is one of those women racers Duv???

Taylor Hawk

 

[duckman1]

As for the Pro Riders I personally sponsor........ All Freestyle/Freeride
Jeremy Parr, Taylor Curtis, Pancake Pete Schite plus a whole list of Am guys.
Take Pancake for instance, He has documented over the past several seasons, the reliability of my motors using ADA heads, He literaly beat the snot out of them, without as much as a single failure of any kind.
I personally don't sponsor riders to win races, I support them to test & make what I do better. If you are looking to see what teams & riders have used & won on ADA, I suggest you contact Bookes or Mike at ADA............ Enough saiid!

While it's entirely true, I build 90% Yamaha based motors, for freeride, not race. It is proven, the ADA girdle set-up for the Yamaha twin is the very best! Period!

Now what you are saying about the Kawi 800 heads? You have me thinking. I currently have a motor from a region 7 pro/am rider here that has experianced the same failure you are describing? To this point I havn't determined the bearing failure is assiocated with the head (TBM by the way) I like looking into these situations as you are doing. I will be spending some time in the near future doing just that. Steve, if you care to share some info or input, I may be able to lead you in a better/differant direction. Please foward contact info, or feel free to contact me directly...............

ski ya, Paul

Glad you like the ADA stuff, your a great ambassador for them. I have heard nothing but great things about you, and since you are still in business, it must all be true. I wish I was located closer so I could pick your brain and have help building a freestyle machine with a Pro-Design head of course. :smile: A few riding lesson wouldn't hurt either, then again, maybe it would.

As for contacting Brooks or Mike, I have in the past. Brooks response was "It works for us". As for it being the best sytem period? Pretty bold statement, lets look at it from another perspective. Hedlund could use anything he wanted, he even designed his own product, and he did it this way, not ADA's. Same with JSU, gotta wonder why these guys did it this way? They are/were pretty big players in the race scene. I have used the ADA in the past with no issues, but as I mentioned, I personally don't like the girdle system. Sure can't beat the price.

Someone mentioned that the pro engines were only used 2 hours max or something to that nature, I don't think this was because of their girdle kit. LOL!


I'll send you my contact info, doubting your going to get me to switch over on the heads though. Maybe I can shed some more light on the SXR situation.

Steve

 

[Jr.]

Glad you like the ADA stuff, your a great ambassador for them. I have heard nothing but great things about you, and since you are still in business, it must all be true. I wish I was located closer so I could pick your brain and have help building a freestyle machine with a Pro-Design head of course. :smile: A few riding lesson wouldn't hurt either, then again, maybe it would.

As for contacting Brooks or Mike, I have in the past. Brooks response was "It works for us". As for it being the best sytem period? Pretty bold statement, lets look at it from another perspective. Hedlund could use anything he wanted, he even designed his own product, and he did it this way, not ADA's. Same with JSU, gotta wonder why these guys did it this way? They are/were pretty big players in the race scene. I have used the ADA in the past with no issues, but as I mentioned, I personally don't like the girdle system. Sure can't beat the price.

Someone mentioned that the pro engines were only used 2 hours max or something to that nature, I don't think this was because of their girdle kit. LOL!


I'll send you my contact info, doubting your going to get me to switch over on the heads though. Maybe I can shed some more light on the SXR situation.

Steve

Steve,
Thank you for the complements!

The beauty of this world is we all have choices & Ideas. without that, this sure would be a boring place to live!

I agree, that the builders mentioned had resorces avail to use pretty much whatever they wanted. They made their choice. I to, like many others watched & learned from others as to what works & what doesn't.
My Father taught me years ago, that if a day goes by & you didn't learn anything, it was a bad day! I do my very best to look outside the box everyday & see if I can make something better than it was. Not everyday is successful, we all have to try.

I personaly like ADA products, They have served me very well. In the past, I have used the likes of Westcoast, PJS, Mariner & just about every player out there. Some of them were very good, it's a shame none of them survived.

I look foward to talking with you.

ski ya, Paul

 

[PancakePete]

you want to know the true test of pauls motors when it comes to Pete?????

Paul is a gazillion miles away and pete has tools......... and it is still running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bwaaahaahaahaahaaa

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Hey, Everyone should have an Illegitimate ADD step child like Pete.......!! :bigeyes:
Keeps you young at heart, thats for sure!!!! :woot:

I, Know, I Know....... Who really is the test subject here? :swordfight:

Don't worry buddy, I wouldn't want anyone else!!!

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

And Paul still lets me wrench... whos the :banghead: here.
:haha:

 

[jetskiking]

Also Art at Jetworks may be a good person to talk to about the ADA and cc racing. I know he builds alot of race motors and uses ADA.

 

[SUPERTUNE]

The ADA is mostly what I use, not necessarily the best but still a very good product. The price structure is a good value, freestyle is run what you brung mostly. ADA head design domes (very thick) will allow all types of builds and upgrades. If you what to build a stroker later with your build, you can custom order a set of domes right from ADA cut out for a positive deck piston (I machine all my own) and not have to worry about dome breakage from too much material removed from dome and can be a problem with most head domes in other brands. Yamaha's are the main choice for freestyle, so what works on them doesn't work on Kawasaki's. ADA did have to step up on the quality on their studs as they did break a lot in the early days, but not a problem anymore now, even at the higher (40 ft-lbs) torque spec's I use from the way too high compression ratio for closed course motors that I use with freestyle set-ups as they are not required to run WOT for more that about 30 seconds.
Most freestyle customers build as they go/learn and need more power and the ADA head allows you to do this at a bargain price and have a great amount of reliability needed against dome breakage and is real bad in my case as I have to build motors to last, especially with salt water intrusions which will ruin engines just overnight not caring if its brand new...
P.S. All you need to do is use o-rings and waterproof grease on the studs on the ADA girdled studs and problem solved.
I do agree that there is some cooling advantages with better designs, but doesn't play a big part for freestyle applications as you don't run them WOT like you would in racing.