Freestyle Daytona / Flatwater Friday Hull REVIEW

Eme cam with hulls and engine combo's for everyone to ride. I spent little time on my ski . to let others ride and test it. The 900 cc power seemed to really fit alot of people who rode it. I am surprised i dont see more feedback from people about the product(s).

I rode a superfreak or two and thought i was going to be shocked with how great they were, sadly i couldnt ride it lie my Aerial. It was hard to prfor me to preload and bunny hop.

i wish this event was going on when it was a little warmer. i have no interest to ride in the 3 cold months we have here :p i was impressed to see you guys here this year! thanks for coming and i hope you got some business out of it!
 

Aircraftsalz

Thrust built Dasa Power
Location
Off site
Maybe next year a BOB gen 3.5 could be shipped out , just like TC shipped his ski.... I'm sure arrangements could be made with Thrust, Jetmaniac , Pat (XM), myself , etc..

It was a really cool event flatwater Friday ... Everyone got to see , test and watch the skis perform. The first year we had what 5-7 skis and maybe 20 people.... This year we had at least 50 skis + and I would guess 100+ people....

Next year will be even better, I hope we can get a few things in order with ski boats and drivers, demo skis, etc...
 

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
We're pumping out a hull a week, sometimes 5 a month. We are very busy with the BOBs, and another reason we couldn't go to Daytona was because of work. About 4 months out on orders just trying to meet the demand. I was just stating the obvious with my first post... We don't personally ride surf, so we aren't going to go to a Surf event all the way across the country for 1 day to demo our skis.

If we made thousands and thousands of dollars on each of these hulls that we sell, believe me, we would have been there with a trailer full of BOBs with different motors to demo, but just like everyone else, we have bills to pay and a job to do. Can't exactly take time off for a vacation during our slow season. How about you East Coast guys coming out West for the Pismo Freeride? Because it's kind of the same scenario.

I'm not dismissing freeriding, not by any means. I'm more of dismissing myself from freeriding. Christian Young is one of our sponsored riders, and he's killing it in the surf. We 110% support him and we do what we can to make sure his hull is doing good. If we didn't care for the freeriding industry, we wouldn't be supporting him.



We're just busy, man. I've been to Daytona for the freeride, it was cool being around all the skis and the chill environment, but our schedules just didn't work. Not many BOBs in the Florida area, other than X-Metal's BOB. Also, there's not many SuperFreaks in the California area, it's just how it is. Plus, we didn't want to make our clients feel obligated that they HAVE to go to Daytona to test out THEIR ski to everyone for OUR benefit. I know I wouldn't want to be in that situation.
And if you don't mind me asking, who's all selling BOBs for Super Freaks? The only one I can think of is Shane, and all I can assume is because he got one of our first hulls, and things just didn't work out with it..

"Freeridings not our thing, I could never get into riding in the surf, done it a few times.. ehh. I enjoy flat water a lot more, but we didn't wanna drive across country to test ride my comp ski for a day, then come back."

DK, sorry buddy, but you just alienated possible customers. Taking your hulls to a Freeride, Flatwater Event, Race is not about you or what you prefer to ride. It is about representing your product. You man not like surf, but your customers may like it. You may have just turned away 1 customer. Now, your saying "I am not worried about that one customer"........ Well, that one customer may live in an area where there are no AM Hulls, but has alot of riders there. If he were to buy a Bob and show up, then 10 of his buddies may ride them and place orders....... But with your attitude you may have just alienated a possible customer. Just because Daytona is a freeride event dont assume that it is all surf riders. The opposite is true, most are flat water guys like me who only rarely get to ride the surf. Now, to say that it is not in the budget to go or ship a ski then we all can understand that. Think about what you say, because last I knew you were not the owner of the company, just the owners son. You are passionate about your hulls to a fault. Sometimes you can do more by saying less. Might want to think that over before you push more possible customers away.
 
Last edited:
I pm'd back and forth with dk last night....here's the last message I sent him..pretty much BK"s post word for word

[h=2]Re: Daytona[/h]
nah dude..its all good...


the point I was trying to make was very basic, maybe I should have said it more plainly. Your company should have been there solely for the fact that you sell hulls. I can guarantee you the simple presense of a ski clinic tent would generate sales. The bobs that are there would all congregate in front of the tent and people would be buzzing around the tent the entire day. You would generate an entourage simply by showing up. business 101, marketing 101....


good luck!​
 

AlbanyMotorsports

Cru is Rad
Location
Chicago
I had a great time. Thanks to everyone who let me ride their skis. I hope the people that got to try my new 1200 eme enjoyed themselves. All you really need is Tricky at a ride and you can try pretty much every hull and every motor.....right out of one trailer. Awesome equipment all around. I respected every hull and motor I touched. They all had great qualities that I could see getting used to. Thanks to all the guys who actually do the work for us keyboard jockeys to enjoy. Keep building and keep pushing. I wanted to try Pats 1200 when he offered it for a ride but after watching that guy kill it on his own equipment I couldnt do anything but shake his hand in admiration and respect.

Quit with all the bashing. Owning any business is hard. Hard to stay open, hard to grow, hard to please. I know the feeling of not being able to leave the office even though it will probably help the company grow. All you builders are awesome. All your hulls are awesome. I want one of each.

You know my vote is the EME equipment. Love the equipment and Eric and his crew are worth every dollar you spend. Such a pleasure to work with and be around. I also loved the WCF Vision and think Steve is great. But all these guys are great. Every hull there looked fun and worth every penny. You cant discount any of them. No bandwagon guy here just a big guy that likes being on a near the water and appreciates our sport and the people that make it as fun as it is.
 
It seems pretty ridiculous that everyone can bash the ski clinic about anything. But if I warn people about trinity composites, I get shut down.

BK, last time I checked little D doesn't run the ski clinic. So if he doesn't like freeride that doesn't mean the ski clinic support freeride. When these east coast hull builders actually start showing up to the west coast freerides, maybe then you guys could start bitching
 

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
It seems pretty ridiculous that everyone can bash the ski clinic about anything. But if I warn people about trinity composites, I get shut down.

BK, last time I checked little D doesn't run the ski clinic. So if he doesn't like freeride that doesn't mean the ski clinic support freeride. When these east coast hull builders actually start showing up to the west coast freerides, maybe then you guys could start bitching

He sure talks like is is their spokesman. Go read al the "We" statements he makes. Ummm the week after WF I believe Tem had several of his Freaks out there in Cali. So an "east coast " builder has gone. When did posting an observation equate to "bitching"
 

Matt_E

steals hub caps from cars
Site Supporter
Location
at peace
It seems pretty ridiculous that everyone can bash the ski clinic about anything. But if I warn people about trinity composites, I get shut down.

BK, last time I checked little D doesn't run the ski clinic. So if he doesn't like freeride that doesn't mean the ski clinic support freeride. When these east coast hull builders actually start showing up to the west coast freerides, maybe then you guys could start bitching

And I bet The Ski Clinic has actually sold more hulls than anyone except maybe RRP
 

waterfreak

I had a vision!
Site Supporter
Vendor Account
Location
s florida
I had a great time. Thanks to everyone who let me ride their skis. I hope the people that got to try my new 1200 eme enjoyed themselves. All you really need is Tricky at a ride and you can try pretty much every hull and every motor.....right out of one trailer. Awesome equipment all around. I respected every hull and motor I touched. They all had great qualities that I could see getting used to. Thanks to all the guys who actually do the work for us keyboard jockeys to enjoy. Keep building and keep pushing. I wanted to try Pats 1200 when he offered it for a ride but after watching that guy kill it on his own equipment I couldnt do anything but shake his hand in admiration and respect.

Quit with all the bashing. Owning any business is hard. Hard to stay open, hard to grow, hard to please. I know the feeling of not being able to leave the office even though it will probably help the company grow. All you builders are awesome. All your hulls are awesome. I want one of each.

You know my vote is the EME equipment. Love the equipment and Eric and his crew are worth every dollar you spend. Such a pleasure to work with and be around. I also loved the WCF Vision and think Steve is great. But all these guys are great. Every hull there looked fun and worth every penny. You cant discount any of them. No bandwagon guy here just a big guy that likes being on a near the water and appreciates our sport and the people that make it as fun as it is.

That's the greatest post of this entire thread here! Because you own a certain hull doesn't necessarily mean is "the best hull in the world" (except for the Vision of course lol) and thus give you a reason to bash other builders or the ones that own them. DK stated his opinion and his reason ...that's it! No need to put him down for it. I would not of driven all the way to Cali for the same reason cause it would not of been economically feasible

People, please get off the bandwaggons and ride. Your ski is the "best in the world", but theirs no need to shove it down people's throat
 
Last edited:

Tmart

formerly superjet444
Location
Middle Georgia
It seems pretty ridiculous that everyone can bash the ski clinic about anything. But if I warn people about trinity composites, I get shut down.

BK, last time I checked little D doesn't run the ski clinic. So if he doesn't like freeride that doesn't mean the ski clinic support freeride. When these east coast hull builders actually start showing up to the west coast freerides, maybe then you guys could start bitching
I see your point, but on here DK represents the ski clinic completely. In his posts he answers every BOB question and gives little hints on stuff thats coming out. When he said "We aren't into freeriding", he's including the entire ski clinic whether you think he is or not.

On another note, the BOB hull is being used by several people as a surf ski, including their own Christian Young that they sponsor, and they also claim that the BOB is a great, all around ski which is one more reason why they should be there or at least give a good reason on why they didn't show up when so many are curious. There was just a huge BOB review before Daytona that T-pain put up about him and his friends 3 BOB's that were also SURF SKIS.

Also, the BOB talk always comes up and gets bashed b/c its a cheaper priced ski that A LOT, including myself, are interested in due to the lower price for a ski that can flip and is different than a stock Sj, but when they don't show up and make excuses like that about not being at a HUGE event, then that makes me second guess my options.

I hope I don't offend anybody with this, just stating this from a business standpoint
 

Tommygunz

Team PHP
Location
Wisconsin
I have to say after a few weeks of riding in some cold ass surf that I love my Bob Gen 2! I think a lot of it comes down to what each person likes. Anyone who wants to come up to Wisconsin this summer is more than welcome to try out my Bob. Hopefully by then it will have a much larger Powerhouse Performance motor:):) if not it will still be running the strong PHP 760!

"Can't we all just get along!" :)
 

DK-Freestyle

2011 World Champion
Location
Oakley, CA
A couple things -

1: Never said that we don't care about the freeriding group... we just dont freeride ourselves. Our closest beach is about 5 or 6 hours away, and our closest lake is 5 minutes from our shop. I've done freeriding myself, and didn't enjoy it as much as flatwater, but that's just me, throwing out my own personal opinion. When I say 'Freeridings not our thing', it's be because we don't do it, not because we don't like it.

2: We didn't go for a number of reasons, mainly because we are busy with work. The only running BOB we have at the moment is my 2011 WF's comp ski, and there's no way I'd drop that thing in salt water, so a surf demo ski was out of the picture to begin with. So if we were to go, we'd only be around for flat water friday. Shipping across country back and forth for a complete ski isn't cheap, not by any means.

3: Between expenses and being slammed at work, we just couldn't make it, end of story. Not sure why it's such a big deal why we didn't go, and I'm not sure how these are bad excuses? If we could have gone, we would have, but it didn't happen. Ever since we've been selling BOBs, we haven't been to many events because we've been busy building units.

Sorry that we're so busy, have a lot of work to do, don't have a surf demo ski and live across the country? I'm not sure what else to say, I'm starting to feel like a broken record...
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom