Derek is the Pismo trip on the 12-14th still on? I haven't heard much and it's only a week away. Seems like theres a lot more people interested in going on October 17-19th. Any chance of moving this to the 17-19th in conjunction with the JK ride. I'm thinking because of gas $ most people can either do one or the other and if they are together it would significantly increse the turnout. BTW I need to get my MX bike set up for sand, is Stu still doing bikes or should I just take it to Herman?