KR
www.krlines.com
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- San Diego, California
4 stroke stand ups (Kawasaki/Yamaha)
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brett
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- Location
- Ventura,ca
cool find
ATS_Aaron
X-
- Location
- Shady Shores, TX
Very cool. Seems like a lot of the Yamaha information was devoted to the design of the water box.
Aaron
Aaron
SJBrit
Extraordinary Alien
- Location
- Bradenton, FL
Note that both were filed in 2004, and yet no product in 5 years. I wouldn't take this as a sign that either company is about to bring out a 4-stroke ski, but more that they thought it was at least important enough to patent a few ideas on the topic 5 years ago.
- Location
- Jersey
the kawi platform looks to be absed loosely on the 1.2L motor found in the 12F
tom21
havin fun
- Location
- clearwater FL
hopefully they figured out it is a bad idea to make the ski heavier and more expensive. that will be a deal breaker for me.:crazy:
SJBrit
Extraordinary Alien
- Location
- Bradenton, FL
:haha:
227
Its all about the surf!
- Location
- Oceanside, CA
Unless Yamaha and Kawasaki also plan on offering a two stroke option in addition to the four stroke then Four stroke stand ups are a bad idea. Just look at the Hydrospace. That pig is useless unless you’re a racer. A four stroke stand up would ruin our sport and everything we are all about. It seems to me too many people are willing to “cave” to the tree huggers when we should be banding together and fighting them. If watercraft enthusiasts, moto cross and off roaders as well as even companys that make weed wackers would all band together we would be a formidable foe for the tree huggers and environmentalists to go up against.
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- Jersey
KR
www.krlines.com
- Location
- San Diego, California
The point he is getting across, is that they are only good for racing. And that a 4-stroke superjet would not benefit any of us.
BombThreat
'Diggity
- Location
- Johnstown, NY
The fact is 2 strokes are no longer sold in NY or CA. I would gladly welcome some kind of standup that can be legally bought within the state. Their will be a day when all conventional 2 stroke jetskis are done being made in the US. Hopefully there will be at least something around to keep the new blood interested in the sport.
jetski9010
Team RTYD
- Location
- Lancaster PA
I think the 2 stoke can be saved it just has a bad image. If they would come out with an direct injection 2 stoke motor it would have less emisson's then a 4 stroke.
- Location
- Fort Sask, AB
So you would rather no Superjets at all? Freeriding/Fresstyle is a niche and a very small percentage of the overall sport (all PWC) just like FMX is to MX. the Japanese big 4 and KTM are almost all 4 stroke because racing is the big part not a few back flippers. This site give a very narrow view due to a small circle of influence of a small number of guys opinions. Show this on PWCtoday and this thread would go a very different way. It's not a matter of pouting about 4 stroke stand ups, it come down to making what is available work for what we all here like to do with said stand ups. The environmental issue and the popularity of 4strokes isn't going away and if Yami or Kawi put out a ski we should all praise a new life into our shrinking sport. It's just too bad they don't invest in some of the new 2smoke technology applied into the snowmobile industry which is very heavily regulated but still offers great high power options. But I guess it doesn't matter cause they aren't making anything anyways. Until then I'll just be stocking up for the 2stroke judgement day.
As long as we keep buying aftermarket parts, companies will continue to make them. Go to any lake for a full weekend, you'll see hundreds of boats, at least 40-50 couches, and maybe one other standup ski. Yet, there are more aftermarket parts (performance wise) for the standups than there are for almost all the couches combined. When was the last time you saw multiple companies making billet sitdown engines? There's enough competition in aftermarket standup hulls these days to drive prices down which is freaking awesome for us!
You may not be able to sell 2 strokes but I'd be impressed if I live to see the day that 2 strokes are no longer supported and I'm only 29.
snowxr
V watch your daughters V
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- Waterford, MI
You have no idea how many aftermarket parts are made for couches. Much of it is geared toward racing, and it's huge. Custom hulls, carbon hoods and seats, superchargers, handling parts, pumps, etc. You name it, it's out there. And DASA / ADA / Team Scream all build cylinders for couches (yam twins).
tom21
havin fun
- Location
- clearwater FL
im not worried, by the time that junk comes to market I can buy an aftermarket hull and motor. they can cram their overhead valves. I'm not impressed by the power they have in a couch. and the money it would take to make it what a 2 stroke is I can build 2 of those 2 strokes
- Location
- South Africa
40% of KTM sales wre 2-stroke in 2008. They are looking at bringing out a 300EXC DI in 2011. The technology is there to kill 4-strokes
vjhardcore
Ride It Like Ya Stole IT!
- Location
- Toronto, Canada
Those are some really cool documents - Secret Squirrel stuff, I like it. We'll fight it, but 10 years from now if not sooner they'll be the norm and the two stroke stand ups really will be "old school".
Now I'm going to the garage to have a Cuban Cigar - and blow smoke everywhere!!!
Now I'm going to the garage to have a Cuban Cigar - and blow smoke everywhere!!!
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I'll take your word for it. Every time I do a search for jetski parts, it comes up with sites that sell random goober parts for couches like brake lights and ladders. Every now and then I'll see superchargers and/or pipes but it's rare. I've seen a lot of carbon fiber parts but it's dinky stuff like carbon fiber mirrors.