Custom/Hybrid Homemade adjustable footholds...need some ideas.

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
First off, this idea would be implemented on an SXR, and I don't believe any of the production adjustable foothold systems out there will work on the SXR because of the curved back end and they utilize an outer bracket that sits flush against the hull, plus I'm a cheap a$$.

Secondly, I'm not trying to copy anyone either.

My SXR is cut to pieces, so I really have a blank canvas to do what I want. What I picture is a system that is contained inside the ski, no outer brackets of any kind. The best idea is already taken, but would be A LOT of work, and that would be to implement a bolt down tray like a Lightweight and have the adjustable footholds attached to that. I am not going flat deck, so the footholds can't bolt to the underside of the bond rails or have any bolts from the outside to access.

What I'm thinking is this: Either glass in a 1/4" piece of aluminum (maybe some thin stainless with nuts welded to it) into a recessed gunwale or glass inserts in certain locations. The part that sticks out (the hold) could be more 1/4" aluminum with some larger threaded "bosses" welded to the top and bottom (maybe some thick glass with coupling nuts?). This piece would bolt to another piece of aluminum with different holes in it for height and attitude adjustment. That plate would then bolt to the plate that is glassed into the gunwale and be adjustable front to rear.

To adjust the foothold height, you'd need to remove the plate the hold is bolted to and access the bolts. To adjust them front to rear, you'd just unbolt that plate and move it fore/aft to another tapped hole in the glassed plate.

Anyone have any input? Better ideas? Criticism? Etc?
 
IMO the Rickter ones are built so wrong. They are too big so they make the tray sow narrow. You want them flat to the out side of the hull. The bob ones do a great job of this.
Pifko I were you I would buy the bob setup.
Also drop the tray low on the out sides of the pump like super freak does. I did it on my Rickter and wow!
 

DK-Freestyle

2011 World Champion
Location
Oakley, CA
Twin, I really don't think the BOB holds would fit on an SXR. I might be wrong though.


Sportfish: PM'd

BOB Holds can be modified to fit on a SXR. They're designed to fit right into a Super Jet tray, but we've made them fit on a 750sx, and it turned out very clean. Just a little trimming of the foot wells. I'll see if I can get some pictures..
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
Ya, I'm sure I could actually make them fit, the back outside of the SXR isn't flat though. That outer bracket either wouldn't fit, or would fit weird and not flush. I just don't see how they would look good. I can get a pic if you want with a ruler held against the hull if you wan't, if you think that would give an idea of how much space there is for that plate.

*EDIT* Took a pic anyway.

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orlando
find a windsurf guru or an old board and rip out the tracks and build from there. look at the KRASH hull setup. basically a similar concept and a better layout than bolt to the side rigging like rickter/bob setup.
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
I saw that Krash setup, but nothing close up. Looks like a sliding rail type setup? No height adjustment? (which is fine once you get the pad thickness right for your feet and shoes)
 
Ya the Krash ones would work. I looked them over at Daytona and its such a great and simple idea. I talked to the guy about selling just a kit with them but he didnt at the time but didnt say they wouldnt
 
Twin, I really don't think the BOB holds would fit on an SXR. I might be wrong though.


Sportfish: PM'd

With the amount of glass work you are doing what the big deal to make a flat window spot for the setup.
You would just need the foot hold hardware and outside part. then work out the area where you want it and make that section flat on the out side of the hull. then a few layers of carbon on the inside and call it a day. The pipe on the right side needs to be cut and dropped. We have done it a few times on flat deck SXRs.
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
Not sure that I want to ugly up the outside with a flat spot just to hold the BOB hold brackets. Plus I think I can create this for a lot less than the $350 price tag of those holds or the $450 price tag of the RRP ones.

I'm still fact finding here. I might just glass my Kickers back in and call it good. The reason behind my inquiry on adj footholds is with how many mods to my ski I've done, I can only guess at where to put my holds. Having some holds that could adjust 4-6" for and aft would be nice to eliminate that guesswork.
 
Build the krash style then. Cut the top part off your hold and glass the back with serts in it so you can slide it in the track. Simple and works.
I wish i took pics of the krash at daytona
 

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
I will have to search for some sort of track system. The hold itself would need to be pretty strong to keep from flexing. I could also put a track up top so it secures well and is stable.

I do see a flaw in this track system, and that would be sand. I see it getting really packed full of it and needing to be flushed out to adjust. Maybe it's not that big of a deal.
 

BruceSki

Formerly Motoman25
Location
Long Island
I do see a flaw in this track system, and that would be sand. I see it getting really packed full of it and needing to be flushed out to adjust. Maybe it's not that big of a deal.


That sounds like the gripe about tuning dual carbs. Yeah its harder than a single during the day or two it takes you to dial them in, but once they are adjusted correctly, how many more times are you going to mess with them?
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
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Alabama
Ya, I'm sure I could actually make them fit, the back outside of the SXR isn't flat though. That outer bracket either wouldn't fit, or would fit weird and not flush. I just don't see how they would look good. I can get a pic if you want with a ruler held against the hull if you wan't, if you think that would give an idea of how much space there is for that plate.


*EDIT* Took a pic anyway.

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You mean like this , if so I agree I don't see how that looks good either?
 

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Cannibal

Tasty Human
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Summit Lake, WA
That sounds like the gripe about tuning dual carbs. Yeah its harder than a single during the day or two it takes you to dial them in, but once they are adjusted correctly, how many more times are you going to mess with them?

I suppose that's true.

You mean like this , if so I agree I don't see how that looks good either?

That's actually done well, recessed into the side. IMO, this would be the only way to do it. Definitely function over form.
 
Twinturbostang heres a couple for you, if you produce any let me know id be interested in a set.
 

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BOB Holds can be modified to fit on a SXR. They're designed to fit right into a Super Jet tray, but we've made them fit on a 750sx, and it turned out very clean. Just a little trimming of the foot wells. I'll see if I can get some pictures..

hey Derrick have some pictures here...
 

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