How the ?? Steering Break

[motomatt618]

The push rod on my steering snapped. Do I need to replace the entire steering cable? If so, how the heck do I do this?

Is the best one the Blowsion Heavy duty? I have a 2016 SJ/

Also, anyone know the best place to have this done at in NC?

 

[FlyinRyan324]

The push rod on my steering snapped. Do I need to replace the entire steering cable? If so, how the heck do I do this?

Is the best one the Blowsion Heavy duty? I have a 2016 SJ/

Also, anyone know the best place to have this done at in NC?

1. Where in NC are you?
2. You should be able to do it yourself.
3. Rad dudes makes an awesome tool for Yamaha steering cables. It’s called the swartzman, named for Dan Swartz. It’s about 30-40 bucks and nice to have in the toolbox. It makes a steering cable job much easier. You don’t have to deal with taking the ride plate off or getting an open end wrench up in your pump area and getting an 1/8 turn each time.
4. Best way to do the job is to tape the new cable to the old cable and slide it through. It’s kind of a pain, but if you wiggle things in the hard to reach spots and apply pulling pressure, you’ll eventually get it. I’ve used electrical tape many times and it’s worked fine. Just make sure you tape up about 6” on each cable, so that it has no chance of ripping apart in a hard to reach area.
5. Have you put any aftermarket steering components on? Aftermarket handlepole? Usually cables break in this spot because something wasn’t aligned properly. It looks like your end has a bend in it, too. It’s kind of shocking this broke on a newer SJ.

 

[motomatt618]

1. Winston Salem, I broke it and was stranded on lake norman today. SUCKED.
3. Do you have a link?
5. It has a blowsion turn plate and zero degree bars. The steering was mounted on the furthest setting out. I see now that it appears when turning left (what I was doing) that the steering rod bottoms out and therefore breaks. Im not sure the best way to fix this though because if I move it to the furthest hole it still wont reach and then it will throw off the steering to the right..

Attahced pictures where it's definitely bottoming out to the left...

 

[Roseand]

You need to adjust the steering cable ends. Just loosen the jam nut and turn them in/out as needed.

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[FlyinRyan324]

Yep, unfortunately it broke because you didn’t have it adjusted properly after putting the aftermarket turn plate on. Next time, you need to make sure the turn plate hits the steering stop on both sides, and then have the cable adjusted within that range.
Chalk this one up as a good ole learning lesson. I’ve had plenty of “learning lessons” over the years.

Link for the Rad Dudes tool if you do it on your own:
http://www.raddudesfi.com/raddudesfi.com/Part_-_Schwartzman_Tool.html


If you want to just take it to someone, I’d take it to CS Performance. They’re on the north part of LKN on 150. Tell them Ryan Doberstein sent you.

CS Performance Inc
9064, 1177 River Hwy, Mooresville, NC 28117
(704) 662-3324
https://goo.gl/maps/LwJ2iwwXJvJ2

If adjusted properly, a normal SJ cable will work fine. A lot of people love the Blowsion steering cable. Kind of comes down to your preference.

 

[motomatt618]

Thanks guys, I will likely call CS performance tomorrow, waiting to hear back about blouson and the heavy duty steering cable. Then Id have CS install it.

IF I don't go this route, I'm looking at a stainless coupler and rod and weld it back together.

 

[SteveC]

So the way i understand it, the steering cables 08+ are shorter throw, and with a/m steering, you bottom out the cable more often than hit the steering stop. Meaning, the cable supports X inches of movement, but with steering changes for faster response, you actually need X plus some. Thus, you either adjust steering to less throw, defeating the whole point of a/m steering, or get a longer throw cable (such as a pre ‘08 cable and adapter kit). @JetManiac sells both cables and adapters. I’m getting ready to do this exact thing on a 2017.

 

[JetManiac]

So the way i understand it, the steering cables 08+ are shorter throw, and with a/m steering, you bottom out the cable more often than hit the steering stop. Meaning, the cable supports X inches of movement, but with steering changes for faster response, you actually need X plus some. Thus, you either adjust steering to less throw, defeating the whole point of a/m steering, or get a longer throw cable (such as a pre ‘08 cable and adapter kit). @JetManiac sells both cables and adapters. I’m getting ready to do this exact thing on a 2017.

Exactly, the Blowsion cable will not fix your problem without modifying how your cable is mounted.

Starting in 2008 Yamaha changed the SuperJet handlepole to have a shorter pole. The top casting of the pole was changed in '08 to a shorter piece with a shorter throw steering cable for some reason no one seems to know why. The 08-up steering cable is shorter in throw to fit this new pole design. This is why the 2008-up do not turn as well as 1996-2007 SuperJets.

You can change the steering cable to the longer throw of the 96-07 SJ cable, but you have to modify cable mount area, and the cable attachment point needs to modded/opened up and moved inward down the pole. We sell a relocation bracket to fit the longer throw cable.

After replacement you can take advantage of a/m steering systems with more throw or move ball outward on stock turnplate and also move the attachment point inward on steering nozzle for more throw as well.

 

[motomatt618]

Im trying not to replace the cable if I dont need to..can you put a link to the bracket?

 

[JetManiac]

Im trying not to replace the cable if I dont need to..can you put a link to the bracket?

You have to replace the cable, that is the problem the cable doesnt have enough throw.

 

[FlyinRyan324]

You definitely have to replace the cable. Sounds like the Jetmaniac system is pretty awesome. I’d get that

 

[Quinc]

Tap some new threads on there, go to the parts house and rig up an extension and ride her. Just adjust her properly before riding again.

 

[BostonSJ]

So the way i understand it, the steering cables 08+ are shorter throw, and with a/m steering, you bottom out the cable more often than hit the steering stop. Meaning, the cable supports X inches of movement, but with steering changes for faster response, you actually need X plus some. Thus, you either adjust steering to less throw, defeating the whole point of a/m steering, or get a longer throw cable (such as a pre ‘08 cable and adapter kit). @JetManiac sells both cables and adapters. I’m getting ready to do this exact thing on a 2017.

This is exactly right. The aftermarket steering are designed for the longer through cables. On my 08 SJ I modified the steering attachment to accept the pre 08 cable. I am using a blowsion OVP and hav no issues bending the cable.

However on my FX1 I am still using the stock steering cable which is the same as the 08+. I have a cold fusion steering set up and I have adjusted it as much as it will allow but I am bending the end like you did. My plan is just to do the steering mod like I did on the 08 and use the pre 08 cable. This is by far the way to go as it really makes the ski steer awesome and no more bent cables.

 

[CHRISRACERX]

On the “08+” do you need to change the cable still with just doing a shorter turn plate? Or just using the OVP system. I just replaced my cable on my build with the stock “08+”. Was thinking about doing an OVP but I think I might just do the turn plate.

 

[Bobbyjackson]

1. Winston Salem, I broke it and was stranded on lake norman today. SUCKED.
3. Do you have a link?
5. It has a blowsion turn plate and zero degree bars. The steering was mounted on the furthest setting out. I see now that it appears when turning left (what I was doing) that the steering rod bottoms out and therefore breaks. Im not sure the best way to fix this though because if I move it to the furthest hole it still wont reach and then it will throw off the steering to the right..

Attahced pictures where it's definitely bottoming out to the left...

I use it on the 2nd hole