Loading toy hauler?

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
I have wanted a toy hauler for a long time and last night I finally found one I could afford. I think I can put a single trailer converted to a double stand up trailer inside of the toy hauler. However, the load height is approx 4 foot with approx 8 foot ramp. The ramp is too steep to push 1000 pounds up. The idea would be to drive to the east coast, park the toy hauler at the camp ground and use the single conversion to ride and keep sand and salt out of the camper.

Does anyone have a toy hauler and load something like this? Current thoughts are to jack up the ramp to extend out the load angle, or to try to get 2 boats in the bed of my truck and put only the trailer in the camper.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
With all of that said, I'll be selling my current trailer. It's a 8.5x18x6.5 enclosed cargo trailer with shelving, work bench, roof air, some wiring, fridge, spare tires, etc,
 
I've seen a lot of Harley owners have the same issue with ramp angles (obviously not pushing the bike up but riding it in and having high center). From what I've seen, they do 1 of 3 things:
1. Jack the front of the trailer up
2. Add 4-6" tall rubber bumpers to the end of the ramp and stack lumber to drive up
3. Add bumpers or block up the ramp and add a ramp extension on a piano hinge that can be flipped out when the ramp is down to extend it and lessen then angle.

We've got a buddy that pulls his blaster 2 on a single place trailer up his ramp with a cheap harbor freight winch.

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You can shorten the tongue of the ski trailer and probably won't have an issue getting it to fit. I would recommend putting a tongue jack with a wheel on it, and adding some 1x2 wood guide strips on your ramp door that act as a rail system to keep the wheel of the jack going up straight. Get a utility winch like this one and mount it to the back wall of the "garage". Can be mounted so it is on a pin and can be removed. Also can wire it up with a wireless remote kit for $30-50 more, well worth it IMO. Cheap and easy setup, very little hassle. Just hook onto your trailer safety chains, hit winch button, drink beer!

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Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
You can shorten the tongue of the ski trailer and probably won't have an issue getting it to fit. I would recommend putting a tongue jack with a wheel on it, and adding some 1x2 wood guide strips on your ramp door that act as a rail system to keep the wheel of the jack going up straight. Get a utility winch like this one and mount it to the back wall of the "garage". Can be mounted so it is on a pin and can be removed. Also can wire it up with a wireless remote kit for $30-50 more, well worth it IMO. Cheap and easy setup, very little hassle. Just hook onto your trailer safety chains, hit winch button, drink beer!

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Length is not the issue. Just the load. I thought about the wench and maybe some kind of roller at the top of the ramp. Everything. Is 12v so it should be an easy wire. How does he secure the wench? Can you get a picture? I want to minimize the hardware as I have a little one on the way. I am concerned the tie downs couldnt support that much weight connected to a wench.
 
For years I put a custom narrowed shorelander trailer in my 30' toy hauler. It had a seadoo XPL and 750 sxi on it. Not super heavy but not super light. To get it in and out, I built a two wheeled truck with a ball and boat trailer winch on it. I had an anchor at the front of the trailer I hooked the cable to and then hand cranked it in or out. Worked great and since it was at the trailer, I could steer as I went. One caution about the electric winch would be getting over the transition at the back door hinge. You will want to find a way to lake that really slow. That is why the hand crank was nice.
 

Yami-Rider

TigerCraft FV-PRO
Location
Texoma
Maybe I'm confused. Load higth 4 foot... both of my enclosed trailers are 1 foot off the ground at the back.

Could you drive the trailor in there with a small utility atv and leave the atv hooked up for moving the trailor around while at the ocean? Atvs may not be allowed at your coast?

You could put a hitch on the back of the enclosed and just drag two trailors.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
Oh, he did say toy hauler. I was thinkin enclosed trailer.

I wonder why they make campers so high of the ground.

Yes, a true purpose built toy hauler. Not a cinverted cargo trailer. My 8x18 is a cargo and it has a 1 foot deck height on torsion bars. This causes issues as a camper. It can not have stabilizer jacks, no place for water tank and sewage dumps, no insulation in the floor, it bottoms out off the pavement. Just backing into my yard it digs into the ground, and again, no undermounted equipment.
 

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
There are plenty of Toy Haulers that are not converted enclosed Car Haulers or Cargo trailers. They have a rear loading door which makes for easy loading. There are other kinds of Toy Haulers that have the side entry like what it sounds like you are talking about where the entry ramp is shorter and steaper. I borrow a Regular Toy like this upload_2015-11-17_12-52-12.jpegand can load my ski with it still on the shop stand. Then you have these type which sometimes has the extendable ramp to make the ramp not so steep and some do not have this part, so your ramp is really steep.
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Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
That is the same as I borrowed. Not 4' off the ground. ;)
Honestly, I would just build a rack out of 2x4's/2x6's. Use a beack cart to load them up ramp, then slide off onto the racks you build. Racks can be removed, just mount the 2x's to a 24" x 60" sheet of 3/4 plywood each.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
That is the same as I borrowed. Not 4' off the ground. ;)
Honestly, I would just build a rack out of 2x4's/2x6's. Use a beack cart to load them up ramp, then slide off onto the racks you build. Racks can be removed, just mount the 2x's to a 24" x 60" sheet of 3/4 plywood each.

Remember, I would like to bring a trailer too. The goal would be to go to the east coast for a week ans stay in the camper, but still have a small trailer to get the skis around, keeping the sand and salt away from this thing. There are a lot of options so i just have to pick the best one. I may be able to fit a trailer infront of the skis. I got rid of my single setup for 2 skis so i can search for something the specs i need.
 
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