Surfriding Mag pump question

[ANT]

Not a lot of experience with mag pumps Solas or Skat. I have a Rickter FS-2 with a 61X motor with b-pipe, jetworks valve ada head, msd enhancer, and skat 12/17 prop with a TBM pump cone. It's a pretty simple setup I like the power and reliability of it. I prefer it and don't want to add to it or take away from it. I ride mainly surf and looking to help with a little better hookup in the surf. Ski does good now just looking for and extra edge. Would a skat/solas mag pump, set-back or not, make sense for me? Would it strain my motor to much? Should I just stick with what I have?

Any input is appreciated.

 

[shaunsteezy]

im running a solas all stainless mag in my fr2 and its hard to even consider not running it. iv rode side by side w/ stock and its a HUGE difference. better hook up all over especially in the white wash. launching re-entrys is more controlled because you have hook up all the way up until you leave the water. no cavatation issues or loss of thrust and it will never corrode in the salt. i also went with the solas all stainless impeller housing so i never have issues with riding 100% salt

 

[restosud]

if getting a mag spend a little more $$ and get the real one.skat setback 12 or 14v.
it will improve hook up in white wash, surf chop and everywhere else.your prop is a big hub already so try it with that first.it won't load your motor much more than current setup.

 

[shaunsteezy]

if getting a mag spend a little more $$ and get the real one.skat setback 12 or 14v.
it will improve hook up in white wash, surf chop and everywhere else.your prop is a big hub already so try it with that first.it won't load your motor much more than current setup.

why is the solas pump not a "real" mag pump? has 12v and creates much better hook up then stock at less then half the price of others...

 

[Lil Dick]

I bought a mag pump for my rickter I bought from your buddy Teric biggest waste of money I don't even have 4 hrs on it an I have been through 2 sets of bearings in 2 rides it did hook up very well ill give it that but the realiablilty of it was not worth the time an money

 

[ANT]

if getting a mag spend a little more $$ and get the real one.skat setback 12 or 14v.
it will improve hook up in white wash, surf chop and everywhere else.your prop is a big hub already so try it with that first.it won't load your motor much more than current setup.

I just have a small hub 12/17. Don't know what kind of difference there is when it comes to performance compared to the big hub.

Thanks everyone so far for the input.

 

[ANT]

I bought a mag pump for my rickter I bought from your buddy Teric biggest waste of money I don't even have 4 hrs on it an I have been through 2 sets of bearings in 2 rides it did hook up very well ill give it that but the realiablilty of it was not worth the time an money

Solas or Skat? I think the skat uses a modified oem vane section? Not sure if there is a reliability difference because of that.

 

[Lil Dick]

Solas pump it was a noticeable difference in performance but the aggravation of it so far I'd stay away from the solas

Solas or Skat? I think the skat uses a modified oem vane section? Not sure if there is a reliability difference because of that.

 

[NVJAY775]

There's been a few guys now that have had issues with the solas mag section, me included. My first bearing set smoked within 10 minutes. My second set I had a machine shop install the bearings and it's been golden ever since and hooks up WAY better than stock.

You might be able to get some more hook up with a more agressive intake grate too. What grate are you running now?

 

[restosud]

perhaps but the thing is heavy,a few apparently eat through bearings for whatever reason and more importantly no SET BACK!
just a pale imitation of the real skat.and you get what you pay for.

 

[restosud]

I just have a small hub 12/17. Don't know what kind of difference there is when it comes to performance compared to the big hub.

Thanks everyone so far for the input.

you'll also need a big hub impeller then.

 

[WB800BLASTER]

if getting a mag spend a little more $$ and get the real one.skat setback 12 or 14v.
.

I agree 100%

 

[raytherace]

if getting a mag spend a little more $$ and get the real one.skat setback 12 or 14v.

Retail of the stator 144mm mag from skat(with exchange) is 1365$ and it come with an impeller soo it more than the double of the price, and if you buy set back you need a set back driveshaft, as well.

it only depend of the budget.

EDIT: I have sold close to 15 solas mag this season without any problem

 

[SuperDrifter]

I've used Solas before, w/o bearing problems. Apparently this new 'budget' batch has problems w/ bearings (quality). Have an experienced mechanic (jetmaniac) use and install C3 or better. You will still be ahead...

 

[sjetrider]

I agree, Go Skat or Max mag pump and if your a surf rider a setback is nice but more costly (have to buy B2 drive shaft and modify for setback) but ANY mag will be a HUGE advantage in surf, I cannot ride stock pump boats anymore, they frusterate the hel! outa me LOL.
In surf, next to a b-pipe, this is the best mod you can do IMO. Even an old skat 140mm race mag will make a big difference in surf, cheap but heavy, still worth the added whitewater hookup IMO.

 

[sjetrider]

I've used Solas before, w/o bearing problems. Apparently this new 'budget' batch has problems w/ bearings (quality). Have an experienced mechanic (jetmaniac) use and install C3 or better. You will still be ahead...

I do not think its the instal, I think its the machining done by Solas that is the issue, too many experienced guys having the same issue to be instal issue. If JetManiac knows what the issue is and what to check before shipping them now then yeah its worth doing. But if no one has done the measuring and research as to why they are having problems (IE chalking it up to inexperienced assembly) then the issue could persist. I am sure Chris is all over the issue, its worth calling him to discuss as if he has the issue figured out then buy a Solas and save some coin. There are no moving parts on the pump vein housing itself so if it is machined and assembled correctly you will be just as reliable as stock. HOWEVER, the Solas is heavy as he!!, if you ride any flatwater that is IMO a concern, in surf no worries.

 

[WB800BLASTER]

ebay has a true skat mag. for the money i have in my boats i only have the best.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scat-Track-..._Watercraft_Parts&hash=item2328d30957&vxp=mtr

 

[kevbo]

I just have a small hub 12/17. Don't know what kind of difference there is when it comes to performance compared to the big hub.

Thanks everyone so far for the input.

A large hub impeller is worth nearly half of the total gain. It wont offer greater maximum thrust, they just dont lose as much as the water gets rough.

 

[Freakrider]

sjetrider I agree that for FW the solas mag is a concern , it's my understanding that it's 5lbs 10 oz heavier than the stock stator. That extra weight has to swing around the full circle on flips it has to slow rotation some.

 

[CD155MX]

Does anybody know the weight difference between the following?

• Fully built OEM pump
• Fully built pump with Solas Mag stator section
• Fully built Skat Mag Pump