Blaster Need some advice.....

[Heelz23]

I have been in the process of installing a new JM head on my 94 Blaster. Got it done but did not have the compression numbers I should be getting with the new head. JM has been great in helping me figure out what I did wrong with the install and in the process, I discovered the Blaster I bought last year has a 650 in it......Needless to say I'm a little down about that...

So now Im trying to decide if I just want to put a stock head back on it and sale it or invest more money in it. I am just a recreational rider that wanted a little more power out of the blaster so putting a lot of money in it was not something I really planned on doing you know but that ADA head just looked so good, I pulled the trigger.

Before finding out about the 650, I already felt like I overpaid (1700) for it, now I know I way overpaid......Pissed at the situation but I really do not think the guy that sold it to me knew it as he was young and said it was just rode occasionally at a lake close to their house, I think it was probably changed out by a previous owner.

The overall body is decent but it really sucks its got a 650 in it. If I sale it, I'd just keep the ada head and put it on whatever I end up getting you know. That thing looked so pretty sitting in there.

So, I am looking for some advice on this situation, best options, etc. I am thinking investing more vs selling it for whatever I can get out of it and look for a better overall blaster. There have been several for sale here lately.

My mechanic skills are limited, I have done some very basic things like put a pipe on it and changing out the head, something that requires greater detail, I'd probably have to pay someone to do it....

 

[Vumad]

I would keep it. B1s seem to becoming increasingly rare. There is only one available right now within 100 miles of me and it's a modified asking $3400 (one recently was available $2000 firm with lots of parts, but that is becoming very rare). You can't do anything about the price you paid or what you got by mistake. It would be a bad decision to sell one and not be able to find a suitable replacement any time soon.

Putting a 701 in it may or may not be more expensive than finding one that already has a 701. It would definitely be more expensive than just finding a B1 with a 701 and a pipe, head, etc.

I myself would rock out the 650, with or without the new head. Meanwhile, I would save up money and look for a B1 with the motor you want and a lot of other parts like heads, prop, etc. If you can't find the ski you want, swap the motor. Unless you just want to get away from a B1 to another model, but that's a completely different topic.

All of this is a moot point if you have lots of options in your area and have some money to offset a better ski. Just sell it and buy what you want. They are very rare (for sale) in my area these days so it would be hard for us to let one go without having a replacement first.

 

[rhugo21]

Mod the cases to accept the 701 61 x cylinder and then you'll have a 701. Jet maniac sells those top end kits cheap.

 

[modularjunk]

A nice swap would be for you to fix a good 61x motor and swap over what you can from your 650 including the head. You can find good stock 61x for $500 and then either keep your motor as a back up or sell it. But id rock your set up for now and save up for a motor and hopefully someone on here that lives close to you can give you a hand swapping motors. Its not really hard at all and a very good write ups in the tech section on swapping and alignment.

 

[Heelz23]

Thanks Vumad, I agree on the other skis, hard to find and a good one is going to cost me more money but Id be willing to do that for a nice ski. I think overall, mine is decent, few minor cracks in the gelcoat and fading but could easily live with that and put a little money in the motor you know. But that 650 in there is hard for me to forget

"Mod the cases to accept the 701 61 x cylinder and then you'll have a 701. Jet maniac sells those top end kits cheap."

Thanks 21, I am checking with him on this option and the skill needed to complete it.

Thanks modularjunk!
I will ask JM about a good rebuilt motor also, just concerned about my skills. I can follow youtube videos though Sometimes without pics I just do not knwo what all the parts are called so it makes it difficult for me to follow just written instructions sometimes. I'd love to just be somebody's helper at a shop so I could learn all this jet ski stuff.

 

[PWCMX]

I bought a blaster this summer and on the third tank of fuel the engine lost all compression. My fault I didn't compression check the engine before buying. Won't make that mistake again. I went and bought a 760 waveraider with a good engine for $800 and parted out the rest of the ski. I got about $400 for the rest of the ski so the engine, carbs, intake, reeds only ended up costing $400. I still haven't parted out the engine from the blaster. Though a 61x bottem end doesn't have much value.

 

[Vumad]

Mod the cases to accept the 701 61 x cylinder and then you'll have a 701. Jet maniac sells those top end kits cheap.

I always consider resale value. How much of us would jump on a modified 650 over a proper 61x? Actually, I usually assume that anything modified was done incorrectly, and I'd be more interested in the non-modified 650. Save some money up front, lose some money on the sale. Is there a net gain? Might as well enjoy a better setup while you own it. Just my opinion.

 

[Heelz23]

I know what you mean PWC. This is my second time getting busted. First time was from a guy that does not post here anymore, he sold me an old ocean pro head and a pipe that was supposed to fit, well the pipe ended up being for a VXR that I've made work on the blaster and his used head was one of those old swirl dome OP's from years ago...that cost me about 400. Hated it so went to the reliable JM for one of those beautiful ada's, now only to find out Im trying to put it on a 650 LOL. Da-n....Like you said I wont make that mistake again, I will look for the 6m6 or the 61x on the motors. I'm learning but its costing me. This ski just keeps on giving

 

[Heelz23]

Agree Vumad, with selling it, it would have to be the the guy just looking for a family ski that is reliable and Id have to tell him about the 650 vs 701, just the kind of guy I am. I think Id be lucky to get 900-1000 out of it. I cannot imagine anyone really into skis would want it. If rebuilt 701 are reasonable and I can find some good instructions, I may go that route. Keep it a years or so and then sale it or if it does good with the newer motor and JM head, just keep it and be happy. What I dont want is new 701, me doing a novice install and just having continuous trouble, takes all the fun out of riding. Just want a decent ski with a few mods that moves out pretty good, do not have to be the fastest on the lake

 

[Blue]

We have a ported 61x motor ready to go at jetmaniac that has ported 61x cyl with matched 61x case bore 83 jm may even swap ur new head out just ask him. I believe he has single 44mm carbs ready to go just add ur electrics. There good power on a budget.

 

[Heelz23]

Thank you Blue, I will do just that? You guys make it sound so easy but what is involved in swapping out electrics? I am guess the nice head I have would not work on that motor? Not sure he would want to swap it, it has a little mark on it where the washer from the girdle kit was tightened down.

 

[Quinc]

There is a short block 61x 701 for sale on pwctoday for 400$. Almost the same price you paid for the head. The carb, and eletronics etc should all switch over from your 650 too. You can also sell your 650 for 200-300$ to recoup some of the money.

 

[Heelz23]

Thanks Quinc. Will check it out. Nice to hear there is still a market for the 650s and I may be able to get some of my money back. You guys make changing out motors and electonics seem so easy....thanks again!

 

[Blue]

I talked to jm adout the head it should be fine. He also has carbs that we can build and jet for that motor possibly u could send ur electrics and we can install them too. Happy to help anyway we can.

 

[Heelz23]

Dam-n Blue, you are the man....I pm'ed JM your suggestion earlier. Will talk with him on a price for this. I would be happy to do a trade in of whatever I have if that is a possibility....or get one of those rebuilt carbs. Ski still does not start without spraying starter fluid in it, but will then run fine and start fine until it sits for any length of time so something is going on with carb.

Sweet on the electrics, I can take things apart just fine

 

[Quinc]

Thanks Quinc. Will check it out. Nice to hear there is still a market for the 650s and I may be able to get some of my money back. You guys make changing out motors and electonics seem so easy....thanks again!

It is VERY easy. It will also help to download the Superjet manual (Same engine and pump as the Waveblaster) and check out the tech FAQ section of the forums where there is a ton of good info. Of course if you do not have time to do it there are some good folks on here that will be more then happy to do it for you. For a price of course.

http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/how-to-assemble-a-701-motor.68398/
http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?forums/tech-faq.26/

 

[Vumad]

Dam-n Blue, you are the man....I pm'ed JM your suggestion earlier. Will talk with him on a price for this. I would be happy to do a trade in of whatever I have if that is a possibility....or get one of those rebuilt carbs. Ski still does not start without spraying starter fluid in it, but will then run fine and start fine until it sits for any length of time so something is going on with carb.

Sweet on the electrics, I can take things apart just fine

Bad to start a ski with starter fluid. No oil and burns hotter than fuel. Install a primer. No reason to wait. Leave the lines a bit longer and it will plug right into whatever you swap in there.

 

[102nd7]

Just ride it. Spend your money on gas and be happy to be on the water. I had 2 identical SN sj 1 with 650 with a pipe and a prop. The other with a 61x with a pipe and prop. Both ran great. Both hit good on bottom just the 650 trailed off a little on top end. Still very fun.

 

[mthomps]

Sucks you got one with a downgraded motor...but honestly I think you should rip the poop out of it till you can dime turn it wide open. There ain't that big a difference between a stock 61x and a stock 6m6 650. Especially without a prop...you got an AM prop on it?

Dont let this bum you out on riding your ski.

 

[Heelz23]

No prop. But will have the head and pipe on the 61. I'm just thinking about resale at some point. Don't think I will be able to get anything out of at blaster with 650 you know.