jetski9010
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I have seen stuff from a while back saying Jetinetics was working on a newer total loss sytem. Anyone know any recent info if they are still working on it or is it still just talk right now?
New Jetinetics Total Loss system
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junkyardj
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i think they put it on the back burner.. i think they make more aircraft parts and the ski stuff was just a side thing.. too bad because they made some good quality stuff
jetski9010
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Thats to bad. I think it would be great to see another total loss system out there if they could make a whole kit for under $1000
junkyardj
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it still might get finished but think he doesnt have to much faith in putting $ into this thing (didnt want to call it a sport)
he still has alot of parts but i dont think they are very motivated to spend $ on a product that might already be outdated imo
ATP has a killer system too with more really nice features but its not under 1000
he still has alot of parts but i dont think they are very motivated to spend $ on a product that might already be outdated imo
ATP has a killer system too with more really nice features but its not under 1000
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jetski9010
Team RTYD
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I have seen the ATP ones and have read some good and bad about them. Didnt research that system very much yet so dont really know everything about it. I am not ready to get a total loss setup right now anyway so maybe by the time I am ready jetinetics will have a system out.
GIL
Power In The Hands Of Few
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If he read 'the bad' here on the X, it was most likely some people that have never saw the ATP much less run the ATP. lol Lots of opinions here that hold no water. If I had a ATP system I'd RIP it!!! :cool2:
junkyardj
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i dont know that ive heard anything bad about the ATP system however i cant really say the same for msd... i know msd is the unit of choice for most rider's the systems dont always seem to stand the test of time..
jetski9010
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maybe I am wrong I thought I had seen something somewhere saying the ATP system was good but something (coil or something I cant remember) held it back from performing as good as the MSD does. I just looked again now and cant find it some maybe I was wrong.
ATS_Aaron
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Bingo. The ATP uses the stock coil, plus it's single channel so it has 1/2 the dwell time of the MSD multichannel system.
Aaron
GIL
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Me too-now I am as confused as alot of our members. lol
ATS_Aaron
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Sorry, dwell time can refer to several things. In this case I meant the time to charge the ignition coil.
The ATP system uses one two pole coil. In one revolution of the engine the same coil gets fired two times.
The Multichannel MSD system has two individual coils. Each coil fires only once every revolution so there is twice as much time to charge the coil.
More time to charge the coil = more engery in the coil when it goes off = hotter spark.
Aaron
The ATP system uses one two pole coil. In one revolution of the engine the same coil gets fired two times.
The Multichannel MSD system has two individual coils. Each coil fires only once every revolution so there is twice as much time to charge the coil.
More time to charge the coil = more engery in the coil when it goes off = hotter spark.
Aaron
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junkyardj
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What makes you think that half a revolution is not enough time to "charge" the coil? :dunno: (Completely ignoring that a coil does not "charge". It's not a capacitor)
By your logic, there would be less spark energy at high RPM than at low RPM because there's less time for the coils to charge.
The MSD does have higher secondary voltage and more spark energy, but I doubt it has much to do with one coil vs. two coils.
Eh.....no. It doesn't quite work that way.
Yes. The coil is always "hot", and the CDI interrupts the coil current when it is supposed to fire. The field collapses, producing voltage in the secondary and firing the plug.
As soon as current is restored, the coil is "on". There is no charge time to speak of.
How much energy the spark gets has to do with input current to the primary and winding ratio.
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junkyardj
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thats what i thought
does he mean one spark insted of two = twice the battery life?
the only real performance advantage i can see from a dual channel is that you can retard or advance different cylinders
does he mean one spark insted of two = twice the battery life?
the only real performance advantage i can see from a dual channel is that you can retard or advance different cylinders
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WFO Speedracer
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I think you are trying to mix the way stock systems and Total loss systems work here.On a stock AC system the coil is not charged all the time since AC voltage from the stator charges the coil.On a Total loss system the coil would be charged waiting on a signal to fire it,that is why on the older systems there had to be a cutoff switch or you would fry the coils in short order when the boat was not running.
Except that I've never heard of anybody doing that. (Not saying it's not happening)
True, but either way "charge time" is not something you worry about with a coil.