Super Jet Odd pistons wear

The piston on the right side was replaced 3-4 months ago, the one on the left was pulled out yesterday. Both times I took the motor apart for different reason and find pretty much the same wear on the same spot of the rear piston. Any guess or similar experience?
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That's not piston wear, that's a lean seizure imo top of the Pistons black all the way across? No piston wash? Carb jetting or carb issue or tuning ?

Anyone else agree with this?
 
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That's not piston wear, that's a lean seizure imo top of the Pistons black all the way across? No piston wash? Carb jetting or carb issue or tuning ?

Anyone else agree with this?
My ski actually has been running a bit rich, I recently adjusted a bit and cleared the spark plugs. They were getting black before, now they look clean.

The motor has always been running perfect regardless of the pistons situation.
 

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Looks like a 4 point seizure due to not letting the cylinder warm up with the piston. or insufficient piston clearance, but you'd typically see smaller score marks all the way around. Agreed, look lean
 
Looks like ring blow by to me coupled with 4 corner seizure usually caused by to quick a warm up or to hot of a spark plug or lean conditions. Check your oil gas ratio if it is to high you will be introducing a lean condition yourself because oil burns hotter than gas. This could also explain your fouling plugs.

Anyone else agree / disagree or have a different theory.

My 2 cents.
 

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Imo you should check the piston to wall measurement as well. Could be blow by from excessive piston to wall clearance and the rings not fitting properly for the bore size. But its hard to say without measuring everything.
 

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that's the rear piston but the front piston looks perfect
that's the second time his rear piston turn out like that. Their is quite a bit of blow by in the same spot.
I recommend that he bores it with new pistons and rings and go thru the carbs .
 
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What is "4 pt seize"?

That happens when the piston outgrows the cylinder, it will scuff next to the wrist pin. It is possible that the clearance was too tight to begin with but usually high combustion temps are the cause. It is easy to run the main too hot if the pilot/popoff is very rich. This is common with "reverse jetting", everything is fine until a long full throttle run. If the pilot/popoff is set for cleaner part throttle you will usually have a hesitation indicating the main is too lean. The rear cyl is hot on Yamahas so open the top screw an extra 1/4 turn more than the front.
 
OT: but I would love to learn why this is? Crank twist?

GroupK article says crank torsioning causes advance timing on rear cylinder however this depends on hull load and Yamaha started retarding timing in rear cylinder of the 760, also rear cylinder lowered compression and increased jetting, hence couch hull. SJ not as big a problem...
 
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That happens when the piston outgrows the cylinder, it will scuff next to the wrist pin. It is possible that the clearance was too tight to begin with but usually high combustion temps are the cause. It is easy to run the main too hot if the pilot/popoff is very rich. This is common with "reverse jetting", everything is fine until a long full throttle run. If the pilot/popoff is set for cleaner part throttle you will usually have a hesitation indicating the main is too lean. The rear cyl is hot on Yamahas so open the top screw an extra 1/4 turn more than the front.

A month ago, I did notice the motor running rich by the look of the spark plugs (very black on the ground electrode). At that time, spark plugs were going bad unusually quick. I turned back both pilot and main jets just a tad and since then the new set of spark plugs have been clean and the right brownish color.
When I replaced the jets after putting a bpipe and a ADA head, I left the stock pop off springs if that matters.
Again, I have always been happy with the performance of the motor. The first time I took it apart was just to replace the wrist bearings as a regular maintenance and the second time I took the motor apart was because I sunk my ski.
I may have done a few full throttle runs but for not more than 20 seconds.
I run dual cooling if that also matters.
 
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