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Yeah and they’re made in the krash factory I heard. I’d be concerned of quality because it looks like it went to rise when they parted ways


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Yeah and they’re made in the krash factory I heard. I’d be concerned of quality because it looks like it went to rise when they parted ways


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I bet they are better quality then The ones made by vik. Yes krash drive trains are a hot mess but I’ve never heard of anyone complaining about hull quality on the newer ones. Perhaps I’m wrong.
 

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I bet they are better quality then The ones made by vik. Yes krash drive trains are a hot mess but I’ve never heard of anyone complaining about hull quality on the newer ones. Perhaps I’m wrong.

The krash hood openings resemble a 90-94 square nose. You know, when they sink in and deform [mention]BruceSki [/mention]

The hulls peel apart, resin wears away, the weight of their “carbon” skis… inserts, paint/graphic quality is junk


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Yeah and they’re made in the krash factory I heard. I’d be concerned of quality because it looks like it went to rise when they parted ways


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Can someone help me understand hull manufacturing better? It seems like it’s the biggest hurdle. Krash is in Australia I believe? I scratch my head trying to figure out why no reliable manufacturer exists. Someone could find a factory in Southeast Asia that would gladly start manufacturing ski hulls. The guy who owns tiger craft makes his stuff in the US. That’s decent proof of concept that it’s profitable?

Why do hull manufacturers keep failing or leaving? Where are these hulls even being made? The company that made the carbon parts for my car could probably make me a hull if they tried. Why so hard?
 
I think that is partly due to there I'd no real money in aftermarket standup jetski hulls. Not enough profit or demand at the end of the day to build hulls. Tem who originally designed and built the superfreaks now builds very high quality carbon offshore catamarans where the profit margin is much better. For many people, the jetski stuff is a second income. Tigercraft is basically a side project for him as he works in composites building pools so he's able to get cheap composites and resins. I'd imagine he does it for his love of the sport and he's very talented at composites. When it's an extra income, you're not relying on profit from that alone so you can afford to not have steady jetski work..
 

Big Kahuna

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Krash hulls are built in Thailand. Same as Rickter Hulls and Rise Hulls now........

Can someone help me understand hull manufacturing better? It seems like it’s the biggest hurdle. Krash is in Australia I believe? I scratch my head trying to figure out why no reliable manufacturer exists. Someone could find a factory in Southeast Asia that would gladly start manufacturing ski hulls. The guy who owns tiger craft makes his stuff in the US. That’s decent proof of concept that it’s profitable?

Why do hull manufacturers keep failing or leaving? Where are these hulls even being made? The company that made the carbon parts for my car could probably make me a hull if they tried. Why so hard?

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Big Kahuna

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Krash hulls are built in Thailand. Same as Rickter Hulls and Rise Hulls now........

Can someone help me understand hull manufacturing better? It seems like it’s the biggest hurdle. Krash is in Australia I believe? I scratch my head trying to figure out why no reliable manufacturer exists. Someone could find a factory in Southeast Asia that would gladly start manufacturing ski hulls. The guy who owns tiger craft makes his stuff in the US. That’s decent proof of concept that it’s profitable?

Why do hull manufacturers keep failing or leaving? Where are these hulls even being made? The company that made the carbon parts for my car could probably make me a hull if they tried. Why so hard?
 

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I think that is partly due to there I'd no real money in aftermarket standup jetski hulls. Not enough profit or demand at the end of the day to build hulls. Tem who originally designed and built the superfreaks now builds very high quality carbon offshore catamarans where the profit margin is much better. For many people, the jetski stuff is a second income. Tigercraft is basically a side project for him as he works in composites building pools so he's able to get cheap composites and resins. I'd imagine he does it for his love of the sport and he's very talented at composites. When it's an extra income, you're not relying on profit from that alone so you can afford to not have steady jetski work..
When I lived in Madison, WI there were so many silent sports nerds who dropped 20k on a kayak or bicycle.

Stand up Jet Skis is a market of river rats, red necks, or surfers trying to OVER tune Japanese toys! lol
 

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When I lived in Madison, WI there were so many silent sports nerds who dropped 20k on a kayak or bicycle.

Stand up Jet Skis is a market of river rats, red necks, or surfers trying to OVER tune Japanese toys! lol
River rats, rednecks and surfers don't spend $30,000 + on jetskis , hell rednecks might not spend that on their doublewide tornado bait mobile homes , Alabama rednecks are on a 50/50/50 plan $50,000 doublewide , $50,000 truck ,( probably a Ford ) and a $50,000 bass boat.

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River rats, rednecks and surfers don't spend $30,000 + on jetskis , hell rednecks might not spend that on their doublewide tornado bait mobile homes , Alabama rednecks are on a 50/50/50 plan $50,000 doublewide , $50,000 truck ,( probably a Ford ) and a $50,000 bass boat.

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What about the 200k mud bogged
 
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Another problem is customers don’t know what they want. It takes a relatively large investment to make tooling. That is a big gamble. Other industries understand and appreciate aviation style composite work. They are willing to pay for that. The jet ski world wants something that looks cool and has bigger engines and carbs. What we end up getting an overweight consumer product that looks like a ski.
 
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Krash hulls are built in Thailand. Same as Rickter Hulls and Rise Hulls now........
So hulls are manufactured in SE Asia to begin with. I guess that’s a big yikes because I figured no one outsourced.

My question would now be, do Krash and Rickter get bent over by the SEA manufacturers because they know / control the manufacturing market?
 
I think that is partly due to there I'd no real money in aftermarket standup jetski hulls. Not enough profit or demand at the end of the day to build hulls. Tem who originally designed and built the superfreaks now builds very high quality carbon offshore catamarans where the profit margin is much better. For many people, the jetski stuff is a second income. Tigercraft is basically a side project for him as he works in composites building pools so he's able to get cheap composites and resins. I'd imagine he does it for his love of the sport and he's very talented at composites. When it's an extra income, you're not relying on profit from that alone so you can afford to not have steady jetski work..
No money in aftermarket makes complete sense. Glad you mentioned Tem, I reached out to him and asked. Like you said, boats were simply better. I tried to track down his old molds.

What if someone made a new market and that redefined the “aftermarket”

It seems like Yamaha is that market, I know Krash has that proprietary KV bullpoop but what if the entire market standard changed or was physically interchangeable with current market standards?

Kids are still buying skis but they are buying the Seapoo Trix. Despite it being a small market, it is still an international market.
 
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Were you able to track the molds down? I have a badass -4.3 and I'll say it's the best all around ski I've ridden. Thats just my personal opinion. I'm by no means a great rider but I can just do things especially in the waves on it that I've never been able to do on anything else. It just recovers soo well and never pearls.
 
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No money in aftermarket makes complete sense. Glad you mentioned Tem, I reached out to him and asked. Like you said, boats were simply better. I tried to track down his old molds.

What if someone made a new market and that redefined the “aftermarket”

It seems like Yamaha is that market, I know Krash has that proprietary KV bullpoop but what if the entire market standard changed or was physically interchangeable with current market standards?

Kids are still buying skis but they are buying the Seapoo Trix. Despite it being a small market, it is still an international market.
The whole aftermarket freestyle scene was built from the Superjet right after someone learned how to roll one. Overnight we needed lighter boats and larger engines so every competitor could do 100 rolls in two minutes. Then someone shortened one and did a back flip. Now we needed a short lightweight hull with even more power so everyone could do 100 flips in two minutes. The fad came and is now going away. Whats next? Maybe vintage hood tricks and racing with the 8' ski jump? Nobody is going to remember it so it will be brand new, again!
 

bird

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The whole aftermarket freestyle scene was built from the Superjet right after someone learned how to roll one. Overnight we needed lighter boats and larger engines so every competitor could do 100 rolls in two minutes. Then someone shortened one and did a back flip. Now we needed a short lightweight hull with even more power so everyone could do 100 flips in two minutes. The fad came and is now going away. Whats next? Maybe vintage hood tricks and racing with the 8' ski jump? Nobody is going to remember it so it will be brand new, again!
overnight? Must have been some good drugs back in the late 90s. Marc Sickerling and Rick Roy were riding way more than one night.

Back flipping got big in 2009-10? That's right, the 2000s sucked, 90s were lit, and 2010s were uber duber.
 
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There is usually someone doing something new somewhere. For all I know some unknown rider could have been rolling and flipping their 440 in the 1970s. Jeff Kantz rolled an X2 at WF in 93. Rick Roy popularized it a few years later. The freestyle industry grew quickly after that.
 
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