Superfreak pump seal

How on Earth is this supposed to work?
 

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superfreaks don't even need any pump seal.
the pump on my first freak was just about to fall out the back before I noticed it was even loose.
the steering and trim cable was the only thing holding it in.
it never cavitated or missed a beat with a huge gap everywhere.
I think the open design of how you can look into the pump from the front of the boat, makes it hook up despite the seal.
as to your issue, yea the hull build quality is total crap.
 
Yes the bore is right at 144. It did appear to be a little but misaligned upward tighter to the top than ideal, but I don't think it could be moved down enough to clear a seal.

I'm debating between grinding the seal mostly through and silicon, it just skip the seal altogether and silicon.

Or bite the bullet and remove and reinstall the shoe, but that seems like a lot if work to not solve the problem.
 
Location
Stockton
A pump I bought came out of a freak and it used silicone, no seal

Edit: Is the ski upside down? Can you set the pump in and see how square it sits to shoe and how the bore aligns?
 
I have it on its side so I can check alignment at the midshaft while playing with alignment at the shoe. It's all round in general not a great fit. I already shaved the mounts on the wear ring to get the pump further up to line up with the bore.
 

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Location
Stockton
That all looks pretty good so far with what you've done. Iam starting to wonder if your idea to grind the seal might actually help. Some silicon too help seal it.. your seal idea would help with that gap too
 
I ended up grinding an old seal to fit, it's going to have to kind of get crammed in there but I have it test fit right now and with some persuasion it goes together. Will be using silicon as well. Not quite ready to put it all in for good right now but I think it will work.
 

Sanoman

AbouttoKrash
Location
NE Tenn
Hornedogg and l spent the better part of couple hours getting my 148 shoe to work.lt looked like your picture.we ended up grinding the glass down at the top of the pump box in front of the shoe to fit correctly.
 

Sanoman

AbouttoKrash
Location
NE Tenn
You will be satisfied when you get out and start riding it. Ol' Buzzy there is just hateing on it.He is somewhat correct that the build quality could have been better.That's why l built all of mine.Tem used to do a pretty decent job,but the quality went down.
 
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long beach local

long beach local
Location
Az
I used a pump seal that I ground (sanded) flat on the top to fit, and also ground into the carbon hull for fitment on my Freak . Also elongated the bolt holes of the pump and used a ratchet strap with the ski upside down attached to the bow eye with all four pump bolts installed and loose , crank the pump tight against pump shoe then tighten the four bolts I dont want any air with maximum hookup.. . Also a tip from JM use 5200 on the pump seal to the shoe. and grease the pump and pump seal to make disassembly easy and makes for proper pump alignment if you ever take it apart next time. I now have a 148 pump in the ski now and it just barely fits but know it dont slip much at all .
 
The seal shaved on top to fit and silicon seems to have worked, got the ski together and rode it a little over the fourth. The problem now is that the tray keeps filling with water. I have a few theories but haven't had a chance to dig into it. I'm suspecting the coolant lines are corroded through.
 

Kohldanielzimmer

Sierra Nevada Runoff Rider
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Location
Ahwahnee, CA
The seal shaved on top to fit and silicon seems to have worked, got the ski together and rode it a little over the fourth. The problem now is that the tray keeps filling with water. I have a few theories but haven't had a chance to dig into it. I'm suspecting the coolant lines are corroded through.

What year is this thing and who built it (Tem or Thrust)?

You're almost certainly correct that the cooling lines are corroded... Do you have two cooling lines? You might try to isolate them and see if they are both leaking. If only only leaks, you can get by on single cooling (unless you have a huge motor).

I'm getting flashbacks from redoing the tray on mine.
 
Thrust built, it's a fiberglass Titan, my understanding is that Tem only bolt carbon hulls and the whole point of the "Titan" was a lower cost fiberglass version built by thrust. I'm not sure how old it is.
 
898 motor, currently using dual cooling lines, I will be pressure checking the lines as soon as I get a chance. I have already had the tray cut open and re-sealed to fix the drive shaft tube, I can cut it back open to replace a cooling line if needed.
 
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