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baylerduncan8

Location
Georgia
Hello, so I just reached out to a company to have a set of footholds installed on a 2015 superjet and I was quoted for about $1500. I’m knew to all this so is this a reasonable price or should I just shop around a bit more.
Thanks
 
Sparkplug

Sparkplug

Location
Red Bluff CA
Don't do footholds on a superjet. Those old school style footholds suck. Good way to break your ankle or be forced to develop a riding style based on where you installed them. They were a gimmick back in th day when everyone wanted to defoam their ski and do a backflip on a superjet. No aftermarket hulls footholds even come close to resembling those od out dated nightmares.

You can do every single trick a superjet can possibly do, without footholds. And it will make you a MUCH better rider.
 
kevbo

kevbo

Location
dfw
Superjets are too long for a backflip but they can do rolls. Everyone caved in the right side of their hulls trying to do it. I made some full length slots for mine and they made the ski much more comfortable to ride. Many local riders were molding and installing foam wedges inside the gunwales. They did the same thing only the tray is narrower. Everything in the jetski world is a passing fad. Try to find something that suits YOUR needs and try to stick with the hobby for a while.
 
Sparkplug

Sparkplug

Location
Red Bluff CA
kevbo said:
Superjets are too long for a backflip but they can do rolls. Everyone caved in the right side of their hulls trying to do it. I made some full length slots for mine and they made the ski much more comfortable to ride. Many local riders were molding and installing foam wedges inside the gunwales. They did the same thing only the tray is narrower. Everything in the jetski world is a passing fad. Try to find something that suits YOUR needs and try to stick with the hobby for a while.
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That's why I laugh everytime someone recommends a superjet for surf or freestyle. If you ride them hard at all. They break. And pretty fast. And if you reinforce them. They become heavy turds.

That's why a guy who wants to ride and learn. Should get a aftermarket hull right off the bat. No longer do I recommend a superjet unless the dude is old, overweight, or out of shape.
 
kevbo

kevbo

Location
dfw
The problem with aftermarket hulls are that they start a little shorter and end up a lot shorter. There should be more discussion about this but it will never happen. About the best way to judge the balance point is by assuming it has a Superjet driveshaft and seeing how far the pump sticks out. That along with pole length.
 
Sparkplug

Sparkplug

Location
Red Bluff CA
kevbo said:
The problem with aftermarket hulls are that they start a little shorter and end up a lot shorter. There should be more discussion about this but it will never happen. About the best way to judge the balance point is by assuming it has a Superjet driveshaft and seeing how far the pump sticks out. That along with pole length.
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Something that is naturally unstable, can be a top performer when in the proper hands. A craft built with stability, will never perform as well as a craft purpose built with instability, with a skilled rider.

Yes its a much steeper learning curve on a short hull. The same guy who learns to pin a superjet wide open for a tank of fuel. Could learn to rip a short hull around. I don't see any benefit to a longer hull for jet ski riding unless your trying to stop Pearling on a wave. Or race. Otherwise a short wide hull with a lid style hood, is better in every single way.
 
kevbo

kevbo

Location
dfw
Its rider size and how much hull area behind the center of gravity that determines how difficult it will be to get planed. Little guys can ride anything, big guys will need either more aft area or be able to crawl farther up on the ski in order to ride away. Often a little negative trim makes it easy.
 
Sparkplug

Sparkplug

Location
Red Bluff CA
kevbo said:
Its rider size and how much hull area behind the center of gravity that determines how difficult it will be to get planed. Little guys can ride anything, big guys will need either more aft area or be able to crawl farther up on the ski in order to ride away. Often a little negative trim makes it easy.
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When I ride my xfr around. It almost never fully planes out. Like you mentioned. How much the pump sticks out the back has alotnto do with it. The pivot point is the end of the nozzle.

I think alot of it is old school guys learned to ride a different way that doesn't translate to today's freestyle or riding. Flat water riders brap the theottle on and off rapidly. This dynamic totally changes how a ski rides. You don't sweep the steering under power. You adjust the steering in between theottle blips and use minute steering adjustments to keep the hull under control. It's always on the edge of losing control.

550. 650. 750. Superjet riders. All learned to ride 2 feet back. Lean in trunk and power through the whole turn. Keep the ski hooked up in the rear. Plane it out. And have fun doing tray and hood tricks


2 totally different types of riding and why I say a shory am hull can be ridden all day long and not fatigue the rider. If he has developed the riding skills.
 
kevbo

kevbo

Location
dfw
Exactly. Nose up and unplaned is a completely different mode of riding than going 15+MPH. As I have said before, a short hull cant race and an SXR1500 cant flip. Freeride hulls are somewhere in between.
 
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Tucker

Location
Seattle
baylerduncan8 said:
Hello, so I just reached out to a company to have a set of footholds installed on a 2015 superjet and I was quoted for about $1500. I’m knew to all this so is this a reasonable price or should I just shop around a bit more.
Thanks
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Just get some jet trim mats with the holds on it. Cheaper and not permanent if you don’t like it.
 
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Tucker

Location
Seattle
baylerduncan8 said:
If you wouldn’t mind would you send me a link to a quality trim that has footholds.
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Email them for examples of pictures. I got split
- split lifters
- bumps on the mat
- ergo kickers
- all black on black with blue stitching

They can send you details and examples of pictures. Depending on what color your ski accent is with your parts you can customize it. Check out their Instagram account too to see examples
 
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