Tips on deep water starts

JLight

JLight

Spanky
Location
Bangor, ME
Alright, I'm a newb and I just got my 650sx together. I should start by saying I'm 6'3" and 260. Yesterday was my first time in 15 years and 100 lbs that I've ridden a standup. I was able to start in shallower water by putting one knee on and hopping up as I gunned the throttle. Once moving I was able to stand with no problems. (Turning while standing is another issue) Anybody got any tips for deep water starts for big guys? It seems like it's just too much weight, too far back. Thanks.
 
Jetaddict

Jetaddict

9 years to retirement...
Location
Tampa Bay
Well, I'm 195 and 6', and although I ride a larger ski (SXR), I usually just hang off the back of the tray, start the ski up and get it moving and use my arms to pull my upper body toward the bars, which allows me to pull my knees into the back of the tray. With the momentum I can easily get back up without the back end of the ski sinking. I have to ask, not meaning anything negative, but what kind of physical shape are you in? (beer belly, or muscular?) If you have a large pouch on you and have not been physically active in a while, you probably need to get into the gym and get your upper body strength and core strength up before you start riding like a madman. Also do more cardio.You could also stand to lean up a bit so it makes it easier for you to muscle up into the tray. Riding it will help, it definitely burns calories.
 
Cannibal

Cannibal

Tasty Human
Location
Summit Lake, WA
Don't forget to get your "manhood" out of the way of the jet. I put my elbow on the on the edges, push the tray down below my junk and gun it. A few seconds I pull my knees up into the tray. Takes a lot of stomach muscles to do it.
 
JLight

JLight

Spanky
Location
Bangor, ME
I'm not in the best physical shape but I'm fairly strong. I've got a good size gut on me. My stomach muscles are definitely sore today along with my arms. That will go away. I do alot of other physical activities like wake boarding, knee boarding, and snowboarding. When you start a new activity, it always takes a few times to work those muscles past the soreness. I think my biggest problem was not going fast enough. When I tried to get my knees in the tray the nose would just shoot for the sky.

Thanks guys. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some critical little step.
 
brett

brett

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Location
Ventura,ca
im lazy...all i do is put my hands on the bondline and put one of my knees in the tray...its by far the least tiring method IMO, although it takes some practice to do it quick enough before the next wave pummels ya
 
ger87410

ger87410

How did I get here?
Location
Fort Worth
I'm 6', 195#.
Give the ski just a touch of throttle. U just need to be moving a tiny bit above idle to make it stable.
 
SkiNaked

SkiNaked

Stand up or Shut up!
Location
Vancouver Washington
The biggest tip is to use your elbows to get most of your upper body out of the water. Get going and then slide a knee into the tray. Watch your manhood. Goose the throttle and you feel it!
 
Shadow7874

Shadow7874

Location
Ocala, FL
God i love weighting 130ish. I can stand with the ski off :)
As for turning goes, more throttle normally helps. And if your 100% sure your going to fall just rip the throttle. Youll either recover, or go down in style!
 
Shonuff

Shonuff

I've got the glow
Site Supporter
Location
Memphis
Shadow, we are going to kick your lily ass when we find you at the Smith Lake Assault.

See you there.
 
S

Super Dee

Location
Mount Albert, Ontario
JLight said:
Alright, I'm a newb and I just got my 650sx together. I should start by saying I'm 6'3" and 260. Yesterday was my first time in 15 years and 100 lbs that I've ridden a standup. I was able to start in shallower water by putting one knee on and hopping up as I gunned the throttle. Once moving I was able to stand with no problems. (Turning while standing is another issue) Anybody got any tips for deep water starts for big guys? It seems like it's just too much weight, too far back. Thanks.
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For someone your size, I'd recommend getting a pump wedge for your ski. My brother is about the same size as you, maybe about 10 pounds more than you are now when he was riding his 650sx. The pump wedge made all the difference in the world to help plane his jetski out quicker. If you're not familiar with a pump wedge, it a small wedge shaped spacer that goes between your jet pumps main body and the last section of the pump, the exit nozzle. You install the wedge so it spaces the top side of the nozzle out further from the bottom, aiming the nozzle down a little. You should definitely try finding one of these. Otherwise you'll always have a heck of a time deep water starting and especially riding anywhere close to top speed without it porpoising.


I just did a quick search on eBay. This guy still seems to make them:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawa...30295208326QQptZPersonalQ5fWatercraftQ5fParts
 
dirtyoz

dirtyoz

Location
Alaska
I do the one up and turm the opposite way too and its works well.
Seems like the yamis starve for fuel if you lay them to the left though.
Best exersize for riding is....welll.................riding.

Oz
 
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