What is too much power for surf?
Does it apply to standups and Blasters?
Does it apply to standups and Blasters?
Surfriding Too much power for the surf?
- Thread starter Henry Stephen
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Vumad
Super Hero, with a cape!
- Location
- St. Pete, FL
No such thing. throttle control.
If you are asking from a budget standpoint where is the cutoff for power before its just wasteful, then you might hsve a valid question.
If you are asking from a budget standpoint where is the cutoff for power before its just wasteful, then you might hsve a valid question.
I was always surprised to hear 'too much power for surf' comment also.
Seen posts and heard it many times though.
If 'no such thing as too much power' were true, wouldn't the freeride pros run 1200+?
Seen posts and heard it many times though.
If 'no such thing as too much power' were true, wouldn't the freeride pros run 1200+?
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- Location
- Cleveland, Ohio
Personally I think that what the "pros" are running now is too much. Gomez and bright are running 1 liter engines and to me that seems ridiculas. They have so much talent as is.
Freakrider
X247
- Location
- Tampa Bay area
Depends on the hull weight, some guys have 55 lbs some are 130 lbs. A 1000 cc bpipe setup in a purposely built heavy surf hull is not too much power imo. How about when the surf is only 3 foot the 1000 cc setup will compensate and have much more potential imo. Keep in mind the 1000 cc setup is detuned compared to FW accessories.
- Location
- OCEAN CITY, NJ
865 is perfect for the surf IMO
Captain PegLeg
GJP
- Location
- Villa Rica, Ga
If you are under control, you are not going fast enough. -Parnelli Jones
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I definitely feel there is a tradeoff where having a lot of power can take away from the fluid surf riding I like to see, there are exceptions to that rule as some have more natural talent than others (Bright, Gomez, TC, etc.) but I have seen some really great surf riding done with a 650 square. If you are talking about the new flip, flip, roll, flip surf routines then the sky is the limit but I think for fluid surf riding, re-entries and face smashing, big motors and short hulls are not always best.
- Location
- sunbury ,ohio
OK Craig , .... I see the wheels are turning and your ''thinking '' again . That could only lead to heavy financial expences for you in the coming months !! ahaha
Captain PegLeg
GJP
- Location
- Villa Rica, Ga
Its all about rider skill versus what is to much power. I think the power out does the rider, not so much the power is to much for the surf. Its "easier" to hang on to a big motor in flatwater than it is hanging onto a big motor up and down waves, whitewash ect.....
speedysprocket
Alex
- Location
- Chesapeake, VA
If you're engine delivers smooth, "linear" power, I don't think there is a limit and it's all up to your throttle control.
Too much power would apply to engines that have that "light switch" power band. That's fine for flat water, but in the surf where it's not all or nothing, that switch could be annoying if it's right in the middle of your wave surfing throttle position...
Too much power would apply to engines that have that "light switch" power band. That's fine for flat water, but in the surf where it's not all or nothing, that switch could be annoying if it's right in the middle of your wave surfing throttle position...
- Location
- Tri-Cities, WA
Exactly. My 900r with PFP hit hard off the bottom which was great for flatwater but it wasn't where I wanted it for surf riding. The pull is linear but the hit doesn't need to be so strong. To me, surf riding is supposed to be fluid and smooth and the lightswitch power naturally makes for a jerky riding style. I'm switching back to a b pipe to tune some of that out. I do love the power though...both on big days when there's lots of whitewash or when the surfs small.
DAG
Yes, my balls tickled from that landing
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
Keep in mind most will get more ride time in the surf with a nicely tuned limited setup as opposed to a flat water setup yanking you around. Big motors just fatigue the body more. Then you have outliers like Gomez that will run out of fuel before coming in no matter what motor platform he rides.
- Location
- detroit MI
overkill is almost enough? lol
no, was just curious...lots of good responses.
got plenty of that linear power, no need for upgrades. Changing my upper deck area though.
- Location
- detroit MI
From my real experience first time on a stunt hull (Dart) in lake MI and with a big engine (XS1000) um it was a lot to try and handle all those new things at once lol.... but watching jeff ride he thrives with the twitchy throttle even in great lakes super choppy surf. so to each his own.
- Location
- sask, canada
I rode surf for the first time ever at the Daytona Freeride and it felt like my ET1107 was too powerful. I got my butt kicked! I'm sure I could have got used to it, but for a surf virgin it was too much.