What to use for my 750 project

I recently started building my 750 cut the nose foamed and now I'm just about ready to start glassing(or carbon). I'm just not sure what I should do so I'm turning to you guys for some help and info!
Here are my questions.

1. How much different is it to apply carbon as opposed to glass
2. What cloth and epoxy should I use
3. How many layers
4. What is the procedure?
??? Soak cloth, then press out excess epoxy then lay it over foam?
Is this kind of the right direction?

Here's a picture of what I'm working with ( don't be too harsh the picture is an early one)

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Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
I hope you have done a lot more work since whe you ae in this picture. I recognize that you have said this is an early picture. I thinm your Nose in this picture is going to make a much better batterkng ram than jet ski.

Disclaimer on the following, i am another hobbiest not an expert, but this is what i have for you...

1) i have never worked with carbon, but unless you are going to vacuum bag the carbon, it is probably a waste of money to use. Yoj are likely better off bagging glass than not bagging carbon.

2) i like working with 1208 biax. There is 1708 as well. Biax is a structual glass that is easy to work with, as it is weave sewn to chop. I find woven cloth a little harder to lay flay and you can nlt use chop with epoxy (you need styrene in poly to disolve the starch kn the chop). I also like using conform cloth. This is absolutely not structual cloth, but lays nice and makes for a smoother finish to your job.

I usually use 3:1 epoxy, but i cant say that it is the best.

3) 1208 biax will be kn the ballpark of 1/8" per layer on a wet layup, and half that vacuum bagged. I dont know exactly how much you need, but it is better to over build than under build in my personal opinion.

4) make sure everything is prepped. This includes sanding all working areas with 80 grit paper And cleaning with acetone.
Brush on your resin, then lay your glass on it. Brush on more resin. The resin may take a few moments to penetrate the cloth so dont expect it to look fully wetted out the moment you bush it on, but do not move to the next layer until the previous is fully wetted out. Roll out the air also before moving to the next layers. Put your biax down pretty side up, and if you choose to use conform cloth, you put that down as yoju very last layer.

Couple of extras...

How much cloth you use is going to be dependant kn your application, a surf layup needs to be stronger than a flatwater layup. Do some research.
Plan your overlap. That is a huge repair so yoj will need a lot of overlap. You have to do the research to decide how much.
plan your seams. You should try avoid cutting the cloth, but you wlnt be able to do the entire job with only one piece per layer, so you will need to cut, and you will need proper overlap.
try to do the job all at once for a better chemical bond, but watch your pot life, it is better to do two good layups than one bad one. Also, do not go thicker than 1/4" in a single layup, although your job probably shouldnt be that thick anyway. If you need to do the job in more than one layup, wait for the first layup to pop, then beclme green, whkch is when kt is hardening but still flexible and tachy, you can then start your second layup while the first still has a little life left to it. Otherwise, you need tl sand the gloss off the 1st before you do the second.
for best results, rekove the foam when done, prep the inside of your new glasswork, and layup a sandwich overlap on the inside of the hull.

Lastly, you can use your foam to make a mold on the boat. To do this, you would have to cover your foam with something like bondo, paint, etc. Wax it, pva it, etc just like a mold.
Prep the hull for glass then Tape off the actual hull, then prep the foam like a mold. Do your first layer pretty side down, then the rest all the same. If you did this job right, the glass work you do will stick to the hull but nlt your foamed area then you can simply remove the foam from the inside easily, otherwise you need to grind the foam out.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
If you choose to vacuum bag, you will not need anything special really, but you will need more materials cost and time.

You can buy the bags used to store clothing from harbor in a pack of 3 for $5. They have a vacuum port on them. Cut out the vacuum port from the bag, then use double sided tape to attach it to a similar hole in your visqueen

The process for this is identical for a wey layup. Wet out your cloth then roll it out.

Then you cover it with peal ply and bleeder cloth. put a bead of 2-sided tape aroung the hull at the edge of your overlap. Cover the nose with a bag made of visqueen, vacuum it down with yojr shop vac.
 
Thank you very much! This is all great and helpful info the project is in the early stages and that was the only picture I had handy so yes there is a lot more shaping to do! Thank you so much for the help Vumad check out the build thread on my ski if you would like to stay posted as to what I am doing! Thanks again!
 

BruceSki

Formerly Motoman25
Location
Long Island
I would scrape all the foam out from the backside and build that nose up with another 4-6 layers of 17 oz after the s glass cures.

4 layers of that thin stuff is nothing.
 

BruceSki

Formerly Motoman25
Location
Long Island
I know how I ride. Just nosing in a flip from high up would break four layers of that flimsy stuff.

Make a 5x5 test panel of four layers of that stuff and see what I mean. It's not all that strong.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
Quick one what should you coat foam with so that the epoxy doesn't dissolve it?

Epoxy does not dissolve foam.

Expanding foam doesn't really dissolve. The pink board will. The pink foam is eps, or expanding polystyrene. Poly resin has styrene in it, so it will dissolve the eps. Epoxy should not.

Actually, I coat the eps with epoxy on my plugs to keep the gelcoat from dissolving it.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
As I said, I like using 1208 biax. I put some opinions about it in my first post.

The test panel is an excellent suggestion. Doing it on a flat surface it will let you know thickness and etc but it will be stronger on a contour. You can take that one step futher by covering the nose of the boat in plastic drop cloth and packing tape, wax it so your test panel won't stick, then layup your test panel on the new area of the hull. This way, your test panel will share the contour of the hull and give you a really good idea of it's strength.
 
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