Well, I chime in on this one. Art called me first, I didn't know who he was. He told me about his exhaust manifold project (he was so concered it would be copied and now I now why his concern,-------------------- its what he does) ----and then that he is making a cylinder for his son "just five of them" (I was stupid and answered questions" then lead into " how does your cylinder design work?" He called me often for about two months (take me to court and we'll get phone records) asking how jetski engines work. Yes he has an understanding of two strokes but not jetski's. While he was doing his dyno runs he finally asked " what are your port timings?" he was so far off, probly because he was using a porting program because he doesn't know jetski's. He then called me back a few days later to tell me how much better his engine ran. YES, all he does is copy others work and effort. He did the same thing to Zack at PHP, at least Kyle at DASA told him to go buy a cylinder and get it from there. Art, got his 967 and 1107 from me when he shook my hand, looked me in the eye and said " its ok, you can show me I'm not getting into this business" (I have a witness)
LYING sack of SH*****T. Apparently he did the same thing in the snowmobile world but at least those guys drag race and a weak engine is soon discovered. He couldn't even keep his hp numbers straight when he was telling me what his stuff was doing. (I remember hp and duration numbers really well for some strange reason)
He has copied Dasa, PHP, FS (or tried) ( you sure you want to buy carbs from a guy who a couple of months ago was calling Ed to ask how carbs work), XS and me. Non of his designs are his, he doesn't know enough about what makes a good jetski engine. He does the con-man thing to where he talks to you as a peer and enthusiast and explains his theory on how things work then waits for you to give him your insight, and whala, it shows up in his next product. The good news is he only make a cheap copy that doesn't make it to the top tier. Go ahead and call him for specific setup on an engine, hull, pipe, carb, exhaust. You'll get a blow-off answer. He won't make anything at the best level until someone else builds it first.
I don't give a crap if you don't like my post, its all true, call Zack at PHP, don't bother Kyle, he's too busy but you'll get the same.
His 967 made 144 hp at 7800 rpm, joke! A good 785 superstock back in the day was at 142 - 145hp.
A 967 can't pull what a 964 Dasa will pull, in fact the 964 will pull just about what an 1107 pulls. You get what you pay for. I understand this stuff isn't cheap but pay cheap and you get cheap.
So if you have a specific budget, I get it, but don't confuse. Its like driving a car set up for true track use and some guy puts on wings and big tires then tells you he's a racer too, sure buddy, LOL.
There are a few guys on this forum and fb who post their opinions as if its fact. Where will they be at WF? Most likely not on the beach with the pro's, so why do you listen to them?
I can tell you that some pro's will be looking for Phil Clemmons, Paul Lehr.
Art you can come on here and deny all I've said but you are what you are. I may sound bitter but I don't care about that anymore, but what I've stated is what I've experienced and know. Oh and here's a quote I'll never forget from Art, "I love screwing up markets to prove I can, its kind of a hobby of mine" This is the guy you want to support.
There are a few really knowledgeable people on this forum but they are drown out by the bs noise.
