Etheraldreamer
Be there and be square.
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- Spring Hill, FL
I dont think the question or point was whether the carbon chamber made more power but just to clarify that it didnt make less.
aluminium mod chamber vs carbon chamber
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Idok
F1pro
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very true!
I woudlnt worry so much about the carbon chamber cracking, but rcubbing thru instead...
Maybe whoever makes them should add an additiounal 4-6 layers of carbon on the hull side...:scratchchin:
Have people been having a problem with this?
leprechaunjohn
john john the leprechaun
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- Mobile/Auburn, Alabama
Nobody ever said they make more power...the carbon is used for weight saving the same power + less weight = better p/w ration and is equal to the heavier pipe making more power. A stainless chamber would get hot as sh*t, and like the aluminum chamber once any bit of water hit it, it would steam and fill your engine compartment with steam....high performance steam filling your carbsokey:
So why are the blaster chambers stainless and the factory pipe sj chambers aluminum? Do the SJ chambers run hotter due to their smaller size? Does CF dissipate heat better than AL or can it just take more?
I think the CF can just dissipate it better, with the water settings I run an aluminum chamber would be scalding hot, I can hold my hand on the CF chamber as long as I want. My waterbox used to steam water after riding for a while, my pipe runs nearly dry.
Etheraldreamer
Be there and be square.
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- Spring Hill, FL
Its not that it dissipates heat, it just doesn't conduct it in the first place. so it just passes through without heating the CF.
2lick
Brap!!!
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- Limerick, PA
I'm about to rub through either my hull or chamber in my 91 squarenose....
I have tried a million ways to make it fit better... I just have to keep putting in pieces of turff for it to rub through first...
and that's on an aluminum chamber
My chamber sits far enough away from the hull to be able to slip a piece of turf between them but tight enough to hold it there loosely. I had used a little glue to keep it there.
Etheraldreamer
Be there and be square.
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- Spring Hill, FL
I had the same issue with the aluminum chamber starting to rub through the hull. I started like you said putting turf between it, but if you loosen the hose clams on both sides you can actually turn it down a tiny bit (just be careful not to let it sit on the tank) and get a little more clearance. Havent had a problem with mine since playing around with the angle of the pipe.
grezzmky
Suckin paint fumes
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- Saint Louis MO
What if I made one out of fiberglass? Using the same resin will it hold the heat? how hot does it get? can I paint my alum one?
Etheraldreamer
Be there and be square.
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- Spring Hill, FL
I was wondering if i could just coat my aluminum one with CF and that would keep the outside cool and make it look sweet. i know it would be heavier but would this work?
leprechaunjohn
john john the leprechaun
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- Mobile/Auburn, Alabama
dont see really any benefit in that. so thats why its prob never been done
I think there's a big misconception going in this thread - about carbon chambers being cooler.
The chamber doesn't influence how hot the exhaust gases are.
Aluminum is a very good conductor of heat. That's why it's hot to the touch. It conducts the heat away from the chamber.
The carbon chamber does not feel hot because it doesn't conduct heat very well. That's perfect indication that it is a much worse heat conductor than the aluminum, causing the chamber to actually run hotter than one with aluminum.
If carbon dissipated heat better, the outside would be even hotter than an aluminum chamber.
I don't imagine it matters all that much, but I figured I'd clear that up. Carbon chambers do not run cooler. They contain the heat better.
Thanks for clearing that up, Im not trying to make the argument that carbon chambers are better than aluminum so nobody is confused just saying that I like my carbon chamber (really like it) and have no plans to replace it with an aluminum one because IMO I won't gain anything (but weight) but had I not got this pipe I would not likely go out and spend $500 on a new carbon chamber because I am cheap.
I think you need a red carbon chamber!
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waxhead
wannabe backflipper
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- gold coast
if the exhaust doesnt cool down then this means more thermal load on your pistons
more likely to over heat the back of the piston and lead to melt down
not that i would think its much difference in heat
Has anyone actually measured the weght difference between the two
i mean its not like alloy is lead
more likely to over heat the back of the piston and lead to melt down
not that i would think its much difference in heat
Has anyone actually measured the weght difference between the two
i mean its not like alloy is lead
My chamber is 1.6lbs, the mod aluminum chamber is 3.78lbs, the Stainless BlasterMod is over 5lbs IIRC.
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Etheraldreamer
Be there and be square.
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- Spring Hill, FL
Thats what i was thinking too. I could do a colored carbon if i just coated mine. i think from everthing said it seems the primary benefit to the carbon chamber is that it looks SWEET and is lighter. Scratching the weight difference because i don't think its that important in a surf tank I think im going to just try coating my aluminum chamber and make it a little more unique. Any particular resin i should use that is better for a application that will be exposed directly to heat?