Super Jet Any body have any experience with the MSD TL Seadoo external relay?

[jetpilot08]

I picked up an external seadoo relay and according to the picture the white wire goes to a ground post. Where do I hook the white/red stripe wire to on the total loss system? Also does anybody use the pink, blue and gray wire or are these capped off?

 

[Billybo455]

the pink, blue, and grey are capped on mine.

 

[SUPERTUNE]

The blue and gray wire out of the MSD unit get capped, the pink from the MSD connects to the white wire from the Start/Stop switch.
The pink wire is the MSD kill wire, so you need to have it HOOKED UP in order to have the lanyard and the stop button!
Take the brown from the Start/Stop and connect to either side of the relay plug, and the other lead off the relay plug to ground.

The red wire from the Start/Stop will connect to the battery side of the relay lug to supply power for the brown wire to activate the start solenoid.

Black from the Start/Stop to ground.

Don't forget to make sure the coil grounds are on the correct side and grounded to the engine.

 

[jetpilot08]

The blue and gray wire out of the MSD unit get capped, the pink from the MSD connects to the white wire from the Start/Stop switch.
The pink wire is the MSD kill wire, so you need to have it HOOKED UP in order to have the lanyard and the stop button!
Take the brown from the Start/Stop and connect to either side of the relay plug, and the other lead off the relay plug to ground.

The red wire from the Start/Stop will connect to the battery side of the relay lug to supply power for the brown wire to activate the start solenoid.

Black from the Start/Stop to ground.

Don't forget to make sure the coil grounds are on the correct side and grounded to the engine.

Thanks for the info! What is the correct side on the coils? There is a brass looking side and a silver side. I keep reading the msd loves grounds. Could a I make a Y shaped wire for each coil and ground that to the engine block?

 

[Billybo455]

I run the shifty module. That's why it's not used. Forgot to mention that.

 

[Pablo]

Thanks for the info! What is the correct side on the coils? There is a brass looking side and a silver side. I keep reading the msd loves grounds. Could a I make a Y shaped wire for each coil and ground that to the engine block?

I think that's what DRoc does. I had to contact msd last year with a troubleshooting scenario and they told me to ground the silver side.

 

[jetpilot08]

I plan on using the shifty module. Hopefully it will show up soon. I think I will make two Y shaped wires out 6 gauge cable or something along the lines of that. Also do you guys running total loss use the cover plate for the switches when mounting the brain? Most of the pics I see it doesn't appear that people are using the back plates.

 

[jetpilot08]

Just got back from Tacoma screw products. Picked up some stainless hardware. Anybody have a diagram of the shifty module they could post up?

 

[augustaf]

will this do?

 

[jetpilot08]

Sweet! Thanks Man!

I just finished up my plate. Double heat shrinked with the red shrink and 100% silicone around the wires going into the pickups. Hope it all works out.

 

[Watty]

The silver lug is the ground on the coils (the bottom one when you are looking at the msd logo the right way up)

A tip with that pickup plate...put a blank grommet in the hole where your wires are running through to the back of the plate and then push the wires through a hole. It stops rubbing of the pickup wires in this area. Also, don't use the MSD grommet on the cases, it puts the wires too close to the ring gear on the flywheel. Get a blank grommet, Yam p/n: 9048023M69....make your own holes further back in the grommet (closer to the cases)

 

[jetpilot08]

Could I use the stock grommet I have now. It's on an 08 super jet. Or will the wires still be too close?

 

[Watty]

You could, yes, but you just have an extra hole to plug. I would check for clearance when you install the flywheel. I've seen those wires rub through on the ring gear so many time it isn't funny.

 

[jetpilot08]

Ok I'll keep an eye on that. Thanks for the tips!

 

[jetpilot08]

Just mounted up the plate. Tighter than a gnat's @$$ and a wiring cluster f^%K. Now I get the joy of figuring out how to set the timing.

 

[speedysprocket]

Yeah you probably want to clean those wires up and put them in some sheaths. This is for freshwater use, right? And have fun timing! My Octane is so easy to time!!

 

[jetpilot08]

Anybody have any idea how big of a ground wire I should use to ground the coils to the engine block? Would 8 gauge work or is bigger better?

 

[speedysprocket]

There's no current draw. I just used like 16 awg.

 

[Watty]

I think they give you a 20g wire with each coil. Although that is fine, and works well, the reality is that the wire will be more prone to vibrate and rattle apart where it enters the ring terminal, or heat shrunken area. As speedysprocket says, 16g is perfect. It doesn't move around as much, fits in your MSD permaseal connectors perfectly, and gives you an instant gangster status...

 

[jetpilot08]

That's a big negative on the coil wire. I didn't see any in my kit. I had some 10 gauge wire so I made my coil grounds with that. I made a Y shaped cable with soldered and adhesive heat shrinked ring terminals. It is a little over kill but it's all I had at the moment. All of my other connections are soldered and covered with adhesive heat shrink.