Super Jet Anyone use a hitch hauler?

Im not really worried about the suspension sagging because its only going to be a short distance, what im worried about is my hitch rating, whats the difference between weight carrying and weight distributing?
 

BruceSki

Formerly Motoman25
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Long Island
When your front wheels have no weight on them; or rather--not the weight they were designed to have, it reduces the cars ability to steer and brake. Short distance or not, you don't want to overload it in the rear. I'd buy the airbags. They are relatively cheap and easy to install. $200 of insurance if you ask me.
 

deftons56

Brian
Location
lake goodwin
Here is another picture of Jake's (CWAmeden) truck with my old ski we brought 15 hours down to California, it worked great. And as far as the wobble side to side, I'm pretty sure he has a turnbuckle tightened to one side so it can't move.

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Ok, im convinced that the raddudes carrier is the way to go and is stronger than strength itself but has anyone ever had or seen a hitch fail due to tongue weight?
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
Im not really worried about the suspension sagging because its only going to be a short distance, what im worried about is my hitch rating, whats the difference between weight carrying and weight distributing?

I only need to hit you in the arm once with a bat to break it.

It doesn't matter if you only drive short distances. It will kill you suspension. Your trail blazer in no different than my s10 blazer, it it was sagging from a lot less abuse than a hitch hauler. A 350lb ski puts 500-600 ft/lbs of tongue weight. Remember, that rating is for a hitch sticking 6"-1' off the hitch, but the hauler is holding weight 2' out. That farther weight is multiplied. A 500 lb rating is in reality insufficient for what we do (based on rating alone).

I've carried a 400lb blaster on a 60lb rack hanging 3' off my truck. No problems. But I most certainly and undoubtly exceeded the weight limit of my hitch and suspension based on the way it's measured.

Remember, my half ton truck is rated at 1000lbs over the rear axel, not 1000lbs 6' behind the axel on the hitch hauler.

Edit: I didn't use your words but the above answered your question about weight carrying vs weight distributin. You are carrying 400lbs of jet ski and hitch hauler. You are distributing about 1000lbs onto your rear axel.
 
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Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
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St. Pete, FL
I'm sure the hitch and suspension will handle the weight. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm just saying that if you value the quality of your suspension, then expect to spend money to upgrade it. I didn't care that my blazer sagged. You might.
 
A hitch hauler is going to kill the suspension on a chevy trail blazer. Plan on them sagging in the near future, and upgrading to air bags.

If you only ride at the lake, you could consider one of the folding style trailers. We put a few thousand miles on our harbor freight trailer before the welds started to crack. We were carrying 2 quads on it sideways so we were way overloading it. A bolt through the back half would have taken the leverage off the axle bracket and made it last longer. Obviously it would not survive the salt.
Harbor freight ones are junk, we watched one bend right in half a WaveDaze. He then walked over and bought a Rad Dude Hauler.
 
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Canada
I think the rad dudes look strong for sure and wouldnt be concerned about using it on a full size pick up truck .. but yes the weight hung over the rear like that on my smaller ford escape would be a lot I would think .. going to the local lake and back no probs but stress full on the escape especially if used on a longer trip ..
I mean if your using a truck on a long trip and a hitch hauler it would be awesome to use over a traile r for sure ..
the good and and bad about the rad dude one ( i thnk ) is the extra lenght to raise the hatch .. nice to raise the hatch with the hauler on but i would have one made shorter i think as a longer one would mutiply teh weight the further away from the bumper I think ? // just my common sense thinking .. or am I wrong ?

NOT talking from experience ( just my thoughts ) .. i dont have one but think they would make a great option to not trailering sometimes ...


ohh and .. I just installed thise air lift air bags on my el camino .. very easy install . and that should help a lot !!

thinking about driving teh elco with tehtrailer to wavedaze but a little leary on traving with eth el camino 11 hours one way its a daily driver but havnt towed with it yet ..
 
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I built a hitch hauler and stand that is the same height as the hitch hauler when attached to my truck for easy loading and unloading. I used heavy duty casters with inflatable wheels from harboe freight. bought square tubing and angle iron to build them. Used 2x4 topped with pvc and carpet on the bunks. The big casters on the stand are the best part. I can load and unload easily in grass, dirt, uneven surfaces. Cost about $200 total to build both. They are on the second season of being used almost every saturday and sunday. I also just bought a beach cart that I toss in the bed of my truck. No more boat launches for me. Let me know if you would like to see pix of them.
 
We have drove thousands of miles with no issues on the Rad Dudes haulers. I took it on an escape to Chicago from CT. And we have made countless trips to FL on Todd's flex and other vehicles. Not to mention the hundreds we have sold over the past 5 years.
Dont worry we did all the thinking for you.

And yes make make ours longer so if people want to cut it down to make it closer to the vehicle they can, but its at the perfect length IMO. If we made them short people that wanted them longer couldn't add to them
 

tshank123

Yo hablo ingles
Location
Vegas
Most of the time the capacity they tell you on something is actually cut in half from what its real capacity is. If it says 400 lbs, it can handle 800.

EDIT: Just make sure you dont apply that philosophy to ladders.
 
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Matt_E

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Most of the time the capacity they tell you on something is actually cut in half from what its real capacity is. If it says 400 lbs, it can handle 800.

EDIT: Just make sure you dont apply that philosophy to ladders.


That is a dangerous assumption. Perhaps one component in the vehicle system can handle twice the weight. What about other components or the entire system? This isn't just about the breaking strength (or whatever) of the hitch or the receiver. Overloading the rear will definitely negatively affect steering and braking.
Perhaps this isn't something immediately obvious in optimal driving conditions without contingencies.
Do what you want, but I think applying some fudge factor to your vehicle's ratings is foolish when you do it yourself and irresponsible when you're recommending it to others.
 

tshank123

Yo hablo ingles
Location
Vegas
OK, yea you're right I'm strictly talking about the tongue weight. You definitely shouldn't weigh the rear of your vehicle too much or you'll affect the steering and breaking.
 
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