ATP epic

I had an older model and run the newer HX3 now, no problems and installs just like any CDI. Of course adjustable rev limit is nice but the programable timing on a charging ignition is fantastic. Way more power available than an enhancer, especially on a custom motor, and you can always play with the timing without even needing a wrench! Buying another one for my other ski!
 

motozachl

uPsiDeDoWn
Location
JAX
I also had the previous EPIC cdi which gave me nothing but headaches. Then switched back to the reliable MSD for a while until the new HX3 came out. Swapped them out and ZERO issues with the new iteration of the programmable cdi. There was a slight power increase and had to richen up my carbs for the obvious hotter spark. Much better around the second time ATP
 
My riding buddy and I both have 1st gen EPICs. They can be a pain in the ass to connect to, but after loading the maps we had zero issues with them all last season.
 
OK, whats there to say ?

Just to say its very straightforward to plug into PC and programming the curves is a doddle ( though it can be programmed straight from the shop if you are uncertain about this ) and its also very straightforward to install into either the stock E box, or into the ATP billet e box.

We found it gave immediate gains that increased further by tweaking / upjetting the carbs to add more fuel - this runs a much bigger spark than previous models

for added "geek points" it can be quickly hooked up to laptop at side of lake and tweaked

The unit we had was tested in 3 skis, two superjets and a blaster. Immediately two local riders who tested , ditched their MSD enhancers and jumped onto the HX3

We have just finished the build of the UKs first aquabot, this is going to run an Xscream SS900 with HX3 combo.

to summarise, quality product, easy to use and install, easy to program and performance gains all round.

dare i say you will not be disappointed :)

Keith.
 
Just to add, the superjets were 61x cyl 760 one B piped, one powerfactor

the blaster had a dry pipe ( unsure exactly which )

the SS900 will be running a powerfactor

so quite a spread of set ups

Keith.
 
would i notice any bottom end gain on my 701 b piped ski , i didn't with a msd on my blaster apart from it didn't hit the limiter
 
Nobbyq, the ignition curve is programmed how you want it, or ATP will do it for you to your specs, requirements and ski. Short answer yes it will give more hit.

Give ATP a bell and let them explain it in more depth
 

rubbertoe

X-H20 certified
Location
San Diego
Finally , a programable digital ignition that really works ! no starting issues .i tested my Epic Hx3 yesterday with what i would consider great results . Highly recommended .Best charging ignition yet that i have tried ,smokes the enhancer ,no problems like the advent (on a yamaha).Woke my ss900 motor up and got me braaaping on the pipe with a much improved curve .Two thumbs up for this charging ignition , also Air Time Products truly stand behind their products and can set these up to your specs ,great braaap for the buck .Robert
 

Roseand

The Weaponizer
Site Supporter
Location
Wisconsin
Would you actually recommend this for a stock 701 with a b pipe? Or a mildly ported 701 that's running around 185 psi?
Interested to know how this works on smaller motors too.
 

rubbertoe

X-H20 certified
Location
San Diego
Sure with the correct curve for your set up and the type of riding you do (surf,race,freestyle),yes it will be a noticeable improvement.add a stock lightened flywheel or other brand (#zero on mine) and this is great bang for the buck .not to mention you get to keep your stock charging system for maintenance ease .
 
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Yes, it would even wake up a worn, stock engine, even a 650 (should have 62T stator and f/w). Don't worry too much about "the proper timing curve" , that is way over hyped.
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
Im hearing good things about the new one. Not so much on the old one.
However its starting to make me think about trying the new atp epic. If it does work well its an awesome thing. I don't think it will make any more power than another programmable ignition but if it keeps going unlike most programmable ignitions in the past then its an awesome thing
 

Pablo

sqeez bth levrs & lean bk
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Location
georgia
I ran two of the old ones without any issues. No complaints on mine. I'd really like to try the new one in a complete setup with a TBM wheel. Kudos to ATP for a fine product.
 
Finally , a programable digital ignition that really works ! no starting issues .i tested my Epic Hx3 yesterday with what i would consider great results . Highly recommended .Best charging ignition yet that i have tried ,smokes the enhancer ,no problems like the advent (on a yamaha).Woke my ss900 motor up and got me braaaping on the pipe with a much improved curve .Two thumbs up for this charging ignition , also Air Time Products truly stand behind their products and can set these up to your specs ,great braaap for the buck .Robert

What issues have you had with advent? I know they had some issues in the past with a bad batch but that was years ago.
 

rubbertoe

X-H20 certified
Location
San Diego
Waveblaster ,mine just never worked correctly on a yamaha . once my boat finally started ,and was running it worked good .but the initial start up there was a bump going from the analog (of the stock yam pulse signal ) to digital signal of the advent cdi. it always had too much advance at the start circuit which would cause my boat not start easy, sometimes it would even kick back on the motor ,also run down the battery with multiple starts attempts in doing so .it was defiantly not confidence inspiring .and if you took on some water in the carbs ,usually left me swimming not starting at all till i took the pump out of the water.now let me say this ,i am speaking only on the t-3 model on a yamaha.i have a buddy i ride with who is running the t-4 on his wdk 1200 (yam based gp 800 cases/electrics)and has had great luck with it .on the t-4 it is lap top programable so the timing curve he is running works great ,eliminating the timing issue in the start circut.let me also mention that on my SXR motor my t-3 rips ,with no issues and great performance ! but after numerous attempts by not only me but another experienced riding partner . neither of us could get it to run properly on the 62t yamaha based motors ,i even i an attempt to get it to work spoke with my engine builder about the issue ,who had also done much more testing than i with the t-3 and had the same results to report. blaster have you ran a t-3 with any success ,because i defiantly don't know it all .i'm just relaying my experience . also if anyone else cares to chime in (because i still own mine) and i would love to hear what i takes to make it work correctly besides removing it ?
 
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waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
I had the same issue with a advent it would fire back hard on the starter. Even to the point of smashing the starter clutch. I have tried a factory fire and issues with it just not restarting and the only way to get it restart was to connect the positive and negatine together. not while connected to the battery. I tried to do it myself using rebadged hpi ignitions and found the some would work and some wouldnt. Cost me a crap load as I bought back all the faulty ignitions. Vilder did it and he got it right they were quite reliable from what I know, Some have died but not as many as other units. If these hx3 last and do the job thats a cool thing. There is alot of power and throttle response in using a programable cdi
 
I've been running my Advent T3 with great results. I had one fail but it was one of the bad batch, Greg warrantied it after several years. Nothing special with the install, pure plug and play. I don't want to hijack this thread though.

I just picked up a Vilder so I'll be giving that a try as well.


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