Bendix wheel and fly wheel getting stuck

[Superjeff]

All right so last year I admit that I made a mistake and accidentally tied the ropes wrong on my SJ and forgot about tidesin saltwater and I got a fair amount of saltwater in teh engine compartment....Now I am having problems with the flywheel and bensix gear getting stuck....Do i just have to buy a new bendix gear or will continual use adn greasing cure hte problem?

 

[keefer]

If the bendix is getting stuck you will destroy the starter in short order. The bendix usually fail because the weight holders and retainer spring break. You should do two things. Buy a new bendix and a new stator cover gasket. Make sure the stator area is clean and not leaking again or you will ruin the stator and another bendix soon if water keeps getting in there.

 

[Idok]

you also run the risk of the bendix letting go which could potentially destroy EVERYTHING in the front cover, and possibly even the cases/crank

if there is ANY rust on the little spring inside the bendix its a ticking bomb


make sure to grease the snot out of the grommett before you reassemble...thats a sure leakpoint

 

[Superjeff]

how much does a new bendix cost??? we opened it Up we heard the psinning noise and we thought eh starter was bad we rebuilt reinstalled the starter...So we took off the front cover and the flywheel and greased the crap out of the bendix then put it back on and it started 5 or 6 times easily... then we put it away for the winter and it wouldn't start after getting it out of storage itw ouldn't start but hten we regreased the bendix again and it started again so should we still replace it or do u think try it for a while?

 

[Superjeff]

if somebody could just like read through this thread and read my last post i don't mean to bump this but i don't wanna rock my bendix and or fly wheel...in short i just want to know if frequent greasing and use will cure this problem...

 

[Jr.]

By regreasing the bendix, you are just putting off the inevitable & playing russian roulet in the meantime. If that bendix breaks apart while running, it will cost you pleanty.... Guaranteed ( as others have already warned you)
You will need to replace it..... I suggest using an oem bendix, much better quality than the cheap aftermarket junk floating around.
But of course you will pay the premium for them (about $260)

ski ya, Paul

 

[felix5oh]

Get the new bindex and take a wire brush to the teeth of the flywheel. Add a small dab of grease to the teeth. The inside should be dry and free of rust.

 

[Superjeff]

I was looking at the OEM catalog which part is it actually is it the whole assembly behind the fly wheel...called the base assey?

 

[#ZERO]

The bendix is shown with the starter on the oem parts catalog and it's called the (idle gear comp.) part number 6M6-8183E-01-00

http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/y-6M6-8183E-01-00.html

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

for some info, and the proverbial 'wrench' in the monkeys azz.

I have had noisey, stuck, un working bendixes [ bendixies?] in the past.

I have removed the flywheel cover, cleaned it all up well, and added some lube/grease, and here a few years later, and hundreds of starts later, they are still going. ) one is making the slow to retract noise again though)

Point is, a new one buys you ALOT of time, and some piece of mind..

a clean, lubed one, buys you... some time.. thats it.

its a gamble, as to how much time is the problem bet.

 

[douglee25]

Another way to put off the inevitable is to soak the bendix in a tin can filled with ATF fluid. ATF fluid is an excess detergent and lubricant. Give it a try.

Doug

 

[Watty]

Another way to put off the inevitable is to soak the bendix in a tin can filled with ATF fluid. ATF fluid is an excess detergent and lubricant. Give it a try.

Doug

I dug this thread up looking to see if anyone had successfully managed to pull thier bendix apart and put it back together when I noticed the ATF thing.

Whataver you do.....DO NOT soak it in ATF. Yes, it does clean good and it's nice and thin, but it's also damn strong and can take of paint and coatings.

The problem with ATF is that it's nearly impossible to get it all out of your bendix once it's cleaned. The forst time you hit the starter and it throws out, it covers everything. This may not seem like a problem, but it makes the bendix rust prematurely and also takes the zinc (?) coating off the flywheel, causing it to rust also.

The bendix has 2 springs inside it, one to hold the weights, and another to hold the throw out section in until centrifugal force takes over. Both of these springs are easily replaced with items from your local machinery shop. One thing to note here is that if you get a new spring that holds the centre section in (the larger, shaft spring) you must make sure that it's of the same tension. I've seen a few new aftermarket ones that won't throw out properly unless you space them out with thrust washers, which most of the time causes them to remain engaged once the engine is running. This is due to the fact that the spring tension is tighter. So, make sure your new spring is the same tension!!

 

[Matt_E]

I have taken a few apart as far as I could.