650/X-2 Best carb for 650sx

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OK, thank you for the information that’s really good to know it was one of the only stairs I could find at the time but I’m thinking it’s gonna be my car because I have the stock 28 and I’ve heard it’s a piece of junk I’m going to try and borrow a Friends CDK2 to 34 and see how that works
 

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Whatever, 28 carbs are junk and 44 carbs are too much for a 650SX , are there any more people with opinions that don't mean anything in the real world, if so lets hear them.
 
Whatever, 28 carbs are junk and 44 carbs are too much for a 650SX , are there any more people with opinions that don't mean anything in the real world, if so lets hear them.
sbn44 is best for a stock/stock-ish 650 engine. I've just had good luck with dual sbn38s on single intakes with my old builds. All around ease of use the 44 is best bang for the buck.
 
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I remember 30+ years ago all the parts houses would sell you a 16 degree impeller saying it was better. I guess lugging the engine down below 6000rpm would work well with the small carb. At 6600 the CDK2 38mm was better, about as good as I could get from a pump gas limited. After that we used a pair of 44s with a higher ported cylinder and race gas compression. Usually with a Dales ignition or MSD total loss. All this with a shortened Coffmans could turn 7000rpm.
 

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I am going to show my age here just a bit but I am old enough to remember 28mm carbs being installed on Professional freestyle skis back in the day, why because they gave a wide linear powerband with no hicckups or surprises, back when freestyle was hood tricks, log rolls and Australian backwards barefoot that is what was required, so to say they are junk is inaccurate , are they too small , probably, are they holding the ski back, definatly but they ran just fine for years on end on stock skis with no issues whatsoever.

By the way I can still do an Australlian backwards barefoot and barefoot off the side of a ski.
 

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It could be as simple as bad spark plug wires really all we are doing is guessing here, you would have to take some ohm and AC voltage readings both cold and after it starts acting up to determine what is failing, a spark checker might also be a wise investment . I have also seen stators get hot and stop sending the correct voltage to the CDI.

I have seen spark plug wires with a series of breaks in them as many as 20 breaks in the wire length, the OEM spark plug wires are pretty much crap .
 
Best of luck on your diagnosis. I too would check CDI, but wouldnt hurt to clip 1/4 inch from the spark plug leads to make sure no corrosion is keeping you from revving out. Also check the voltage regulator too since you are there for CDI. Furthermore take the hood off when it happens and let it vent for 5 - 10 minutes. See if it happens again. If not you may have an exhaust leak that is filling up inside the hood while riding. Then it makes it to where the engine cant breath and it wont rev out either.
 
Idles great, I just put a brand new stater on, and I have 147 psi on each cylinder, the reads look good to me but I am no expert but I’m not 100% sure. When I rebuild the engine, I took it to the water and took it for a ride After I let it warm up it was acting strange sometimes when I went on the gas, it would takeoff like it normally should and revved out completely and then I would ride it for five minutes Come back in and kill it. And the next time I go up to start it runs like crap and sounds like the carb is trying too clear itself out
I have a similar issue where the ski takes forever to get going while in the water, the trick I found is to go full choke, lug around with a face full of smoke, then slowly come off choke, it will clean up and run great. If you kill the engine, and sit more than a few seconds, you have to repeat the process all over again. I'm thinking that maybe the fuel pump i loosing prime or something. The ski is new to me... I got it as a non runner and rebuilt the carb and fuel pump. '86 X2.
 

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Tons of stuff that could be , needle lever set way too low, air leaks at the fuel lines, bad fuel pump , stopped up screen behind the needle and seat , low speed screw turned in way too far , air leak at the carb base gasket , stopped up bypass holes in the carb body, bad crankshaft seals ,one thing is for sure it's running way too lean .

I would start with the carb , fully disassemble it and find someone with an ultrasonic cleaner and dunk it for a few hours.
 
Tons of stuff that could be , needle lever set way too low, air leaks at the fuel lines, bad fuel pump , stopped up screen behind the needle and seat , low speed screw turned in way too far , air leak at the carb base gasket , stopped up bypass holes in the carb body, bad crankshaft seals ,one thing is for sure it's running way too lean .

I would start with the carb , fully disassemble it and find someone with an ultrasonic cleaner and dunk it for a few hours.
Since riding it, I did find the that sending unit was leaking at the top of the tank, because the gasket was misaligned. I also tuned the low speed adjuster again. I'll have to see if eihter of those changes fixed it.
 

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I will tell you this if any of the bypass holes are stopped up or the screen on the back of the needle is stopped up , no amout of adjustment will do any good.
 

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Just a little comment here. My wife's '88 X2 has a single Mikuni SBN 44 carb and a B Pipe (but tuned to have linear acceleration) and it works fine but it has no way near the power of a Yamaha 701 with stock exhaust with dual SBN 38's.
 
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dfw
The X2 should pull almost as well if your rpm is over 6500.
 
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