Surfriding BOB performance in surf??

[Big Kahuna]

"Back Flip On A Budget". That is basically what BOB stands for. It is not designed for riding in the surf, nor is it designed to ride up the lake/river chasing boats. It is a localized Freestyle hull. It is not meant to be ridden any distance other then a very small area where you would be doing freestyle.

 

[BruceSki]

It is definitely a different ride if you are coming off a superjet. The guys i ride with have progressed on it after three rides or so. Like ryan said earlier, the setup is key. After getting the pole length dialed in it became much easier to ride. But damn the pole has to be short.

The one negative I found with the bob is the footholds. I find them very uncomfortable, even when wearing wrestling shoes. I also find it hard to stay locked in the holds.
If I were to buy one I would build my own holds or hack up a set to fit in the short gunwale. The front foothold option is really nice though.

 

[sjetrider]

I think you can learn to ride just about any hull anywhere. If all you had was a 550, you would learn to ride it wherever you go. Will a BOB or XFS or Q8 force you to ride differently (HE!! YEAH) even my carbon ROK forces me to ride different. One or 2 rides will not get you confortable on any of these hulls. If you want to have a confortable feeling with some minor changes in ride style but with overall gains then you may want to try an FS2 or FR2 as they are GREAT hulls requiring little change to ride style but adding instant gains in adgility.

I think if I were riding mostly flatwater then a BOB or an XFS or Q8 would be fine for everything I do even chasing boats (in time) but if you ride surf then the added benifit of these hulls will hinder you more than you gain IMO. I think it will reduce your fuel consumption GREATLY in surf LOL.

 

[Matt_E]

If you want to have a confortable feeling with some minor changes in ride style but with overall gains then you may want to try an FS2 or FR2 as they are GREAT hulls requiring little change to ride style but adding instant gains in adgility.

I would add the Superfreak hull to that list. Absolutely comfortable to ride, very stable, and instant gains in agility. Truly an all around boat.

 

[tightithrash]

im interested in riding Christian Youngs new gen 2 bob. the set back pump and wider intake should solve alot of things in the surf for me and my experience.

 

[sjetrider]

That is good to hear. I havent had the pleasure of riding one yet. I feel the ROK is a great all around hull as well. Very Stable and adgile, I think some rocker and a wider pump tunnel would bennifit it as well though.
Its been a fun boat to ride, most who ride it feel confortable on flatwater instantly.

I would add the Superfreak hull to that list. Absolutely comfortable to ride, very stable, and instant gains in agility. Truly an all around boat.

 

[sjetrider]

Both great mods IMO, My only concern on the new BOB is really recovery stability for an intermediate riders and I am not sure how that hull handles above mid range in fairly smooth water (seems like it would be sketchy) but just a thought.

I hear the XFS recovers nice and handles well as well but still needs to be ridden aggressively all the time to keep it nose down?????????/

im interested in riding Christian Youngs new gen 2 bob. the set back pump and wider intake should solve alot of things in the surf for me and my experience.

 

[dustin272]

Apples to Apples bob gen 1 and gen 2 are completely two different boats. However, I do agree that gen 1 would be super hard to ride comfortably in the surf. I also think that gen 2 would be difficult but much more stable and predictable. The two boats are a night and day difference with the small little changes that have been made. Guys that have ridden gen 1 and not gen 2 its going to be hard to compare.

 

[tightithrash]

Both great mods IMO, My only concern on the new BOB is really recovery stability for an intermediate riders and I am not sure how that hull handles above mid range in fairly smooth water (seems like it would be sketchy) but just a thought.

I hear the XFS recovers nice and handles well as well but still needs to be ridden aggressively all the time to keep it nose down?????????/

im not sure but i will give my view on it once ive ridden the gen 2. i think it sould be good a WOT burts now that things are set back. that deff the diffrence right now tho. on my rickter last time we all rode i was gettin my MACC on and was just WOT thru 2-3 foot chop rollers and i stayed on my ski, i forgot how fast my ski was hahaha but if you did that on a gen 1.... bye bye. i think the gen 2 should do well.

the xrR i rode in daytona was just sick. flips violently in 2' surf, i landed on my back with no trim. i was able to do point back rolls too and everything landed and recovered great. i didnt really have the nose problem but, again, it was taylors R that had the tray cut out(Shanes new ski) with a strap up front so i was able to keep my body more neutral. i could see how it could be hard on a S.

 

[superwetbrett]

i was going to be riding taylors xfs at daytona but someone broke it before i could get ride it.. i did however get on a 1st gen bob. i am a 165 lbs and i kept falling from side to side and if i would try to recover from it i would do a 360 then ride out.. it rides just like the bottom is shaped like a bobber in the water.. side to side

 

[tightithrash]

i was going to be riding taylors xfs at daytona but someone broke it before i could get ride it.. i did however get on a 1st gen bob. i am a 165 lbs and i kept falling from side to side and if i would try to recover from it i would do a 360 then ride out.. it rides just like the bottom is shaped like a bobber in the water.. side to side

oh yeah i remember that. some yahoo trying flairs and flips off 1' waves in 1' of water instead of going out to the back. lawn dart after lawn dart after lawn dart........ i remember guys on the beach saying "what the is that guy doing!?!!?" bent midshaft and something else. TC had to pull the motor. i think the guy worked for NASA or something...........ancake:okey:
atleast it tested the hull strength and there was literally no damage so that was good.

brett do you know if that bob had the widened bond line? that was a HUGE issue when it had the like 1 and a half diamond wide turfed rails. once they widened them like a rickter it helped alot with the side to side issue.

 

[superwetbrett]

brett do you know if that bob had the widened bond line? that was a HUGE issue when it had the like 1 and a half diamond wide turfed rails. once they widened them like a rickter it helped alot with the side to side issue.

dont think it did.. i am sure that would help a ton.. someone with a bob should cut the big bulge off the bottom i bet it would ride so much better

 

[DK-Freestyle]

I don't know man. I saw you ride at Surf Slam and that sealed the deal for me that a BOB isn't for me. Your riding was great, so don't take it the wrong way. But you were hunched over the front of the ski the entire time you were riding. It looked extremely uncomfortable.

He rides like that on his old super jet in flat water, Jack's just a weird rider, haha.

dont think it did.. i am sure that would help a ton.. someone with a bob should cut the big bulge off the bottom i bet it would ride so much better

Was it the black one? Cause that was one of the few that had the short rail. If you cut off the bulge, it wouldn't backflip easily, it would just be OB (on a budget).

 

[DK-Freestyle]

The times I've ridden the BOB in the surf, I've really like it, but then again, its the only freestyle ski I ride. Obviously if you go from a super jet to a BOB, you're not gonna be comfortable, the BOB is a foot shorter than a super jet. It'd be like going from a GPR to a blaster, you're not gonna like it, but you have to spend some time getting used to it. BOB can perform in the surf, we've got plenty of people who ride theirs in the surf, but it obviously wasn't developed for freeriding, so everyones gonna have a different opinion on it.

It was made as a flat water hull, because that's what we ride, not surf. But some people like it in the surf, and others dont. I'm so used to riding BOB, that I dont like to freeride with a super jet, or even freestyle one. If I spent some time on it, I could easily do it though.

 

[Jr Freestyle]

Rickter xfs and the 1st gen BOB rode very similar IMO. Neither would be my favorite for surf but they are fun on flatwater.

I'm sorry but those 2 hulls dont ride similar at all

 

[BruceSki]

Rode a gen 2 for a little while today and I really liked it. I pussed out on flipping it in the surf, but screwed around off a setup wake and it performs very nicely. The footholds are great and easy to kick deep into. I was much happier with the way the gen 2 rode compared to the gen 1's I have ridden.

We had two of em in the surf all day though and the guys who ride them full time are having a blast with them. It flips like nothing, they are flipping all over the place.

 

[shanes]

I think if I were riding mostly flatwater then a BOB or an XFS or Q8 would be fine for everything I do even chasing boats (in time) but if you ride surf then the added benifit of these hulls will hinder you more than you gain IMO. I think it will reduce your fuel consumption GREATLY in surf LOL.

chasing boats on the XFS ??? i wish you luck , trying to keep the thing to just stay in the water is an effort :-}} with the longer ride plate that Taylor made its ok but with the standard one fitted you feel like your play frogger :-}}

Leigh from Random performance in victoria australia has some new ride plates he has just made 2 or 3 options for the XFS for surf riding etc

 

[yldsix]

prices for the bob hull over here are not much different to a jb1 or rickter its just short of 6000 australian to aquire a bob hull here and thats base model .... Backflip Over Budget. Ive tried to contact direct via email but no reponse both times.

 

[DK-Freestyle]

prices for the bob hull over here are not much different to a jb1 or rickter its just short of 6000 australian to aquire a bob hull here and thats base model .... Backflip Over Budget. Ive tried to contact direct via email but no reponse both times.

Did you use the correct e-mail? Derrick@theskiclinic.com
We're always responding to any e-mails we receive about the hull.

By the way:
4,000.00 USD = 3,744.10 AUD

HSR-Benelli Australia is also a BOB dealer -

Address:
Unit 1 / 13 - 15 Ereton Drive, Gold Coast, Australia 4214
Phone:
+61 7 5529 2563
Brad- 0426 503 501
Brendan- 0451 085 668
Website:
http://www.benellijetskis.com
Email:
Brad@benellijetskis.com
Brendan@benellijetskis.com

 

[yldsix]

HSR is the shop quoting 5990 and considering the rickter only cost extra 500 over the american price,, over 2g extra is wrong... i wont even ask what they are buying the hull for im guess a wee bit cheaper then 4000. I used the email off your website so i think its the right one .... do you guys have a rough idea for freight to aus.