SXR Can you use motorcycle oil in your ski's?

[Cassidy]

I work for a motorcycle shop so i get oil at a discount wondering if theirs any risk in running my SXR with something like Motul 800 or Silkolene comp/super 2 and what fuel to oil ratio does everyone run i know the SXR is recommended 60:1 but it seems odd because i run my 2 stroke bikes at 40:1.

Stock motor used for rec.

-Thanks

 

[DAG]

Oil is so cheap. A buck per tank and you want to cut corners?

 

[Cassidy]

Oil is so cheap. A buck per tank and you want to cut corners?

It's a bit more expensive in Australia and being a young minimum wage worker doesn't help, plus my discount is quite significant

 

[john zigler]

PWC oil is "BIA" (boat industry approved) Rated TCW-3. PWC oils have rust inhibitors. Do some research on your oil, Sometimes they cross over, and are actually the same. If your Cycle oil is BIA rated, or has rust inhibitors, I would say you are OK, if not I would not run it.....

 

[623pwr]

I run Motul 800 2t in my Dasa, very nice stuff. It was recommended to me from a pretty good source. I have heard good things about Klotz R50 too.

 

[Christian_83]

We use Motul 800 in a lot of our machines. no worries

 

[erik mx45]

i use motorcyle oil maxima super m, golden spec,klots etc you will be fine ! save some money !

 

[X2Kid]

An Australia-specific answer...

Become a club member of both Super Cheap Auto and BCF. They will send you (via email) from time-to-time vouchers giving a fixed dollar discount with no minimum spend.

BCF recently sent me a $15 off voucher at the same time they had Valvoline TCW-3 on sale for $20. That four litres cost me $5.

Work the system and you can get the exact product you need for cheap!

 

[Tyler Zane]

Tons of people use non marine/pwc oil. I'd be willing to bet that every high end oil manufacturer exceeds the oem oil recommend.

 

[Ochocoronas]

PWC oil is "BIA" (boat industry approved) Rated TCW-3. PWC oils have rust inhibitors. Do some research on your oil, Sometimes they cross over, and are actually the same. If your Cycle oil is BIA rated, or has rust inhibitors, I would say you are OK, if not I would not run it.....

AH...UHM.... isnt all oil a rust inhibitor? It has a lot more to do about smoking less and getting a better oil burn ratio. This is so outboards aren't spitting so much oil in the water. I would worry more about getting your ratio when mixing right and using good gas.

Just to clarify this is water cooled 2cycle oil. Not air cooled I am talking about. 2 different kinds of oil. You can not run air cooled 2cycle in your ski obviously unless you run it as hot as a chainsaw engine lol.

TCW3

Two Cycle watercooled 3rd gen

 

[john zigler]

AH...UHM.... isnt all oil a rust inhibitor? It has a lot more to do about smoking less and getting a better oil burn ratio. This is so outboards aren't spitting so much oil in the water. I would worry more about getting your ratio when mixing right and using good gas.

Just to clarify this is water cooled 2cycle oil. Not air cooled I am talking about. 2 different kinds of oil. You can not run air cooled 2cycle in your ski obviously unless you run it as hot as a chainsaw engine lol.

TCW3

Two Cycle watercooled 3rd gen

No, not all oil type have "rust inhibitor additives" and no, not all oil is NOT a rust inhibitor. Especially synthetics. I have personally seen issues on PWC engines / machines from using wrong types of oil in a wet environment.

It is one thing on a Sea Doo your wife / girlfriend ride easily around the lake, it is another on a Stand up, that is ridden hard, sunk sometimes, put away wet, etc.

 

[Ochocoronas]

When I had my CR 125 dirt bike I loved riding in the mud and thru ditches. Plenty of water found in these places. Never seen a motor cycle swapped before lol. What about a snowmobile and all the slush?

There are additives sure but the main thing is the temperature at which a water cooled 2cyle and a non water cooled burn the oil at. If I had a raw pice of steel and cleaned it brushed it with a oil of your choice on a regular basis it would never rust.

Rust is a cancer of metal and oil is like radiation.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Sounds like your the expert here.

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[623pwr]

Motul 800 2t specs

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.motul.com/system/product_descriptions/technical_data_sheets/61294/original/800_2T_Factory_Line_Off_Road_(GB).pdf?1362490748&ved=0ahUKEwjfnPmJ0u3QAhWEjFQKHf3VBUYQFggpMAA&usg=AFQjCNFjUfBGtsdruYq9y50Bjhcfzjhawg&sig2=KQl10L97GA1iArikKJURhg

 

[623pwr]

Klotz specs

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...ih6irBbx9Fw4yeptw&sig2=bw50TkD-39x9pKFH0tU2Tw

 

[john zigler]

When I had my CR 125 dirt bike I loved riding in the mud and thru ditches. Plenty of water found in these places. Never seen a motor cycle swapped before lol. What about a snowmobile and all the slush?

There are additives sure but the main thing is the temperature at which a water cooled 2cyle and a non water cooled burn the oil at. If I had a raw pice of steel and cleaned it brushed it with a oil of your choice on a regular basis it would never rust.

Rust is a cancer of metal and oil is like radiation.

You can run whatever you want in your ski. I do not care.....

If everyone followed my advice, and took proper care of their machines I would be out of business......

 

[Ochocoronas]

All most every TCW3 is weighted to be able to run thru an injection pump. All the none TCW3 quality oils are to thick and must be pre mixed. Nothing better than a Merc 2.5 running on Bean Oil. Everybody you fly by gets a nice smell lol...

I totally agree not to run Weedeater oil in your ski unless they want to come see you.

 

[badvinny]

the TCW3 oils are also Phosphorus and Phosphate free so we don't polite the waterways, this is also one of the primary reasons 2 strokes are being banned at many lakes. It is ecologically irresponsible to try to convince everyone here to use otherwise. Heck, why don't we start pouring our used automotive oil down the sewer again like dad did!
Motorcycle oils usually have Ester additives which attract moisture, then as the vehicle is parked the solvents evaporate leaving the moisture behind which is seen as a thin coating on the bearings and cylinder walls, bearings hate moisture and fail prematurely because of it.
Klotz and many other brands have higher performance oils for racing only applications, but will direct you away towards their other oils for these reasons

 

[Ochocoronas]

I think we were all
Just answering the question about using motorcycle oil in a ski. But since you brought up going green you should put away your TCW3 and run Castor Oil like I do. Yes you have to clean and inspect your motor more often but Castor Oil is the most envioment friendly Oil out there. Not only is it better for the Planet but it is also better for you breathing the fumes when re boarding your ski.

 

[ajmps1]

Amsoil dominator for the win, they specify for pretty much any high output 2 stroke engine, pwc, dirt bike, skidoo...