Chan ride plate

Because i'm in a $hitty mood this morning i'll gladly throw a wrench in you plan...

Byeai and Yami-Rider are building ride plates for Trendsetterz Chan's. Steve was very reluctant to send replacement plates and the assumption was he wouldn't send them because he knew his plates wouldn't necessarily fit on his own hulls. Of course it could've been that he was lazy ("busy") and didn't want send them, because reasons.

I'll try and add a glimmer of hope to the painful dark and dismal future of your personal water craft experience...
Your best bet is to have a ride plate made very thick. The rationale being that if its thick on the "outside" then you have plenty of material you can grind off to get proper fitment against your ski without making the new plate too thin.

I don't know how you guys manage to drill new holes for those plates.

Good luck.
Well chit! Looks like I may need to look into a aluminum version
 

Pablo

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For u guys that are having trouble with them tearing up, I've used 1" nylon washers on all the bolt holes between the fat panhead allen head bolts. I will agree my very first chan I bought 4 years ago I destroyed that ride plate in one summer. However since I started using these washers and I cut my plates 3" center with 2"sides or less from flush with hull I've never had an issue. I drilled mine free-hand using a 1/8" pilot hole through each spot.
 
For u guys that are having trouble with them tearing up, I've used 1" nylon washers on all the bolt holes between the fat panhead allen head bolts. I will agree my very first chan I bought 4 years ago I destroyed that ride plate in one summer. However since I started using these washers and I cut my plates 3" center with 2"sides or less from flush with hull I've never had an issue. I drilled mine free-hand using a 1/8" pilot hole through each spot.
Thanks pablo! Im gna see if I can get a new one ordered for a spare and then ill probably give the nylon washers a go
 

cookn

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Just trim the one you have until it fits, then make a mold from it. I made a chin pad from the inside of the stock chin pad foam. I just taped it up with duct tape to seal the foam up, then smear some petroleum jelly on the tape so it pops out after the resin is cured. It turned out pretty good and I'm no composites expert. I would think if you laid up on the inside of the plate it would turn out small enough to fit. Just a thought anyways
 
OK you bunch of jug heads .... I'll chime in on this one...... The problem with chan plates are that you have to build the mold inside out . To do it right you have to build two molds. Nothing lines up on the stock plate. It's to narrow, the strakes are not aligned and can be over 1/4 inch out.

The fix:
I cut a plate in three parts and laid glass and filler to fill the gaps..... then sanded filled sanded filled etc. What I have is a male mold meaning the carbon print is showing on the outside . The strakes on my plate are rounded (rear needed to be loosened up anyway). To be a "production " plate I would need to take the plate I made sand fill sand fill then take a mold of that plate . The lay up has to be specific because the inset on the hull varied from 2 to 4mm. My lay up is 2 layers 19 oz carbon 4 layers 1208 biax. The better plate would be 5 layers of 19th carbon. Search for my chan plate build.

I've been asked to build some plates over the last year but I just don't have the time to do it the way it needs to be done Ie. Make it a production quality. If you look back at some old post you will see that I ground the strakes down about 1/2 inch the full length of the hull . The plate I made really compliments that mod. When I sell the hull the male mold will go with it .
 

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Sanoman

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OK you bunch of jug heads .... I'll chime in on this one...... The problem with chan plates are that you have to build the mold inside out . To do it right you have to build two molds. Nothing lines up on the stock plate. It's to narrow, the strakes are not aligned and can be over 1/4 inch out.

The fix:
I cut a plate in three parts and laid glass and filler to fill the gaps..... then sanded filled sanded filled etc. What I have is a male mold meaning the carbon print is showing on the outside . The strakes on my plate are rounded (rear needed to be loosened up anyway). To be a "production " plate I would need to take the plate I made sand fill sand fill then take a mold of that plate . The lay up has to be specific because the inset on the hull varied from 2 to 4mm. My lay up is 2 layers 19 oz carbon 4 layers 1208 biax. The better plate would be 5 layers of 19th carbon. Search for my chan plate build.

I've been asked to build some plates over the last year but I just don't have the time to do it the way it needs to be done Ie. Make it a production quality. If you look back at some old post you will see that I ground the strakes down about 1/2 inch the full length of the hull . The plate I made really compliments that mod. When I sell the hull the male mold will go with it .

You are one smart guy!:D
 
You are one smart guy!:D

You are one ugly guy...sano you have earned your very on personal acrynym...PASIIS (put a sock in it sano) now if you don't mind grown ups are talking...

615 and I stayed up very late last night with our lawyers , but we stuck with it until we ironed out all the details. I wanted skittles he insisted on pixi sticks .... We struck a compromise with fun dip.


I'll be sending my plug to Toby so he can make a final production mold. Rest assure he will provide a plate that will last longer than our half ass hulls.

Make no mistake people this is the plate you want for your chan .

It softens the rear and fits like a condom. Makes riding your Chan more fun than wearing your wife's panties. Scientifically tested in the Tweeker laboratories and will add 4.27896 feet to ANY free style maneuver .Keep in mind this plate is Currently ban for freestyle competition in Iceland.


You can't make chicken salad out of chicken $hit people.... But if you keep adding mayonnaise to it makes it more palatable.

Pm Toby 615 and get the full details on how you can "add a little mayonnaise " to your chicken Sh... I mean Chan .
 
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Sanoman

AbouttoKrash
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NE Tenn
You are one ugly guy...sano you have earned your very on personal acrynym...PASIIS (put a sock in it sano) now if you don't mind grown ups are talking...

615 and I stayed up very late last night with our lawyers , but we stuck with it until we ironed out all the details. I wanted skittles he insisted on pixi sticks .... We struck a compromise with fun dip.


I'll be sending my plug to Toby so he can make a final production mold. Rest assure he will provide a plate that will last longer than our half ass hulls.

Make no mistake people this is the plate you want for your chan .

It softens the rear and fits like a condom. Makes riding your Chan more fun than wearing your wife's panties. Scientifically tested in the Tweeker laboratories and will add 4.27896 feet to ANY free style maneuver .Keep in mind this plate is Currently ban for freestyle competition in Iceland.


You can't make chicken salad out of chicken $hit people.... But if you keep adding mayonnaise to it makes it more palatable.

Pm Toby 615 and get the full details on how you can "add a little mayonnaise " to your chicken Sh... I mean Chan .

I beg your pardon,l tried the wife's panties on and there is no door in the front WTF!
 
So let me go ahead and bump this thread, what lengths would you recommend for my new plate, and did anyone ever make an AM one? I want a more surf type set up, so needs to be longer than the current one (also pictured). Obviously needs to be trimmed some or its going to snap pretty quick. Thanks!
 

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Yami-Rider

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My final plate molds are done yet, just been too busy.

I've rode different lengths and I like it short. Maybe have a little longer for surf, but it didn't seem to make that big of difference on the chan I rode.
 
Bumping an older thread. Anyone got a good link on making a ride plate from a mold? A buddy has a Chan mold and we want to try to make a few. I know I've stumbled across the threads here before but struggling to find it now. Search feature isn't being nice.

Looking to confirm cloth weights, release agent, and tips and tricks. I've dabbled in composites (basic hull repairs, footholds, reinforcement) but never created something from a mold.

Cheers

Mike
 

Ducky

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Bumping an older thread. Anyone got a good link on making a ride plate from a mold? A buddy has a Chan mold and we want to try to make a few. I know I've stumbled across the threads here before but struggling to find it now. Search feature isn't being nice.

Looking to confirm cloth weights, release agent, and tips and tricks. I've dabbled in composites (basic hull repairs, footholds, reinforcement) but never created something from a mold.

Cheers

Mike

I have no input here, but if you make a ride plate, let @Sasquachcrap know....he needs one!
 

Yami-Rider

TigerCraft FV-PRO
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Texoma
Bumping an older thread. Anyone got a good link on making a ride plate from a mold? A buddy has a Chan mold and we want to try to make a few. I know I've stumbled across the threads here before but struggling to find it now. Search feature isn't being nice.

Looking to confirm cloth weights, release agent, and tips and tricks. I've dabbled in composites (basic hull repairs, footholds, reinforcement) but never created something from a mold.

Cheers

Mike

Possibly hand the mold over to someone that knows what they are doing? Lol

Imo should be vaccum bagged/infused.

I finished my mold somewhat, made 2 plates for friends and those plates are still holding up solid, so never messed with fully finishing out the mold to my standards for resale to general public.
 
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Get with Steve Bach. He built me 2 aluminum ride plates for my Trendsetters Chan, and not 1 issue ever in the past year. He made 1 short and 1 long for surf and flatwater.
 
The aluminum plates came from Steve Bach, the picture with 4 plates, 2 nice cut ones were made by Carter, top left is junk from Twangled, and top right is an uncut and unmounted Original Trendsetters plate. Carter has a few Carbon and Glass ones still for sale as well.
 

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tom21

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Bumping an older thread. Anyone got a good link on making a ride plate from a mold? A buddy has a Chan mold and we want to try to make a few. I know I've stumbled across the threads here before but struggling to find it now. Search feature isn't being nice.

Looking to confirm cloth weights, release agent, and tips and tricks. I've dabbled in composites (basic hull repairs, footholds, reinforcement) but never created something from a mold.

Cheers

Mike
Those plates are stupid thin. Infused would be your best best and you should really do a little reading on carbon and glass and the different weaves and what they are for to get a basic understanding of the design structure.

That being said its still too thin. The great thing about that mold is you can make a bunch and it will cost nearly nothing but time.

If I had to do it I would prob use several layers of plain weave 10 oz or thinner fiberglass. Skip the gelcoat in favor of another layer of glass.
Use vinylester or epoxy resin not cheap boatyard resin.

You could use however many layers of 1208 you can to still fit the hull too.

Best if you can infuse or at least bag it to compress and then you shove a few more layers in it. But that's more advanced.

I would see how far you can get on multiple layers of thin cloth first. Research how to calc the correct amount of resin for the material in your part and that will also let you get the highest amount of glass in the part.
 
Those plates are stupid thin. Infused would be your best best and you should really do a little reading on carbon and glass and the different weaves and what they are for to get a basic understanding of the design structure.

That being said its still too thin. The great thing about that mold is you can make a bunch and it will cost nearly nothing but time.

If I had to do it I would prob use several layers of plain weave 10 oz or thinner fiberglass. Skip the gelcoat in favor of another layer of glass.
Use vinylester or epoxy resin not cheap boatyard resin.

You could use however many layers of 1208 you can to still fit the hull too.

Best if you can infuse or at least bag it to compress and then you shove a few more layers in it. But that's more advanced.

I would see how far you can get on multiple layers of thin cloth first. Research how to calc the correct amount of resin for the material in your part and that will also let you get the highest amount of glass in the part.
Tom, I have an original Trendsetter Chan ride plate that has never been mounted. Is that something you could build a mold off of and make a few plates? If so, I could send it your way.
 
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