Dasa 8mm/12mm x ignition x pipes x pump combinations...

[geraban19]

Guys,

Im deciding between Dasa 8mm to 12mm and my doubts are related to the mandatories add ons as MSD TL, pipe,...

So, doesn't make sense to get a monster engine and run a B pipe, oem electrics and oem pump.

Is anyone able to tell whats the limit/balance of displacement x oem ign+enhancer x oem pump (may consider Solas 144 mag) x B pipe??

Anyone running 8 or bigger crank w/oem pump, oem ign and B pipe??

Dont want to recharge battery after each ride (msd tl ONLY concern)...
Dont want to run 3gallon tank (pfp concern)...
Pump only concern is budget. Since it will not be a PURE freestyle engine, not considering any huge pumps.

ANY suggestion is more than welcome.

Thanks

Gera

 

[geraban19]

Forgot to mention that hull will be an oem SJ 2012.

 

[motoman96]

I'm running a DASA 8mil 950, B-pipe, enhancer, TBM flywheel and it hits pretty hard. I'm also running a skat 148 setback mag. Gonna swap over to a pfp and msd total loss next year probably.

 

[XJCrawler]

Truerider on the site ran a dasa 8mm 950 with a stock pump, bpipe and epic ignition. It had plenty of power, he has now switched to a 148 mag and will be buying an msd total loss in the fall

 

[geraban19]

So, I think that for big displacements (10mm and up) pump is the way to go, even if U run oem electrics....
B pipes sounds to be fine.

I just wonder why manufacturers are not making pipes like Speedwerx, type 4, type.... All of those allowed us to keep the oem thank.

 

[Christian_83]

Geraban, you deffently wanna go with MSD TL. Its truely day and night diffrence over MSD enhancer / stock elecs!
I would get a Solas Mag 144, as these offer the best bank for buck.
I've just done a back-to-back test this weekend with dual Riva power bombs 48mm carbs vs a brand new set of Full Specs 49mm. And i really dont think theres i any real "diffrence". Maybe a minor, but nothing thats something i would pay money for.

 

[Jr Freestyle]

Geraban, you deffently wanna go with MSD TL. Its truely day and night diffrence over MSD enhancer / stock elecs!
I would get a Solas Mag 144, as these offer the best bank for buck.
I've just done a back-to-back test this weekend with dual Riva power bombs 48mm carbs vs a brand new set of Full Specs 49mm. And i really dont think theres i any real "diffrence". Maybe a minor, but nothing thats something i would pay money for.

?? Really , I'm doubting the full specs were tuned properly then

 

[badvinny]

?? Really , I'm doubting the full specs were tuned properly then

Riva's rock when tuned properly, its the return jet restrictor thats 'all important' on them, I have a single on my Dasa 701 and dual 48's on my Dasa 1100, love'm
If you want to retain the charging then get an EPIC, no comparison to the MSD enhancer.

 

[Christian_83]

JR lets just say i talked to Ed and got PRECISE advise on jetting, pop off and H / L screws. Pop off were checked with pop off gauge.
And that jetting sucked. Took the jets, n/s and from my Riva in my FS. And it ripped again. But i hardly couldnt tell any diffrence from the Riva's

 

[L.T.D]

I'm running a 12mm stroke 90mm bore with an msd enhansor,powerfactor carbon pipe and a skat mag 144.theirs no doubt that totaloss would bring more out in that motor. But it's on the edge of being rideable as it is

 

[grahammy]

It doesn't make sense to put a big engine that size in stock hull surely?
The big power is for back flips and your hull is not the best bet for flips!

 

[chasingdaylight]

Guys,

Im deciding between Dasa 8mm to 12mm and my doubts are related to the mandatories add ons as MSD TL, pipe,...

So, doesn't make sense to get a monster engine and run a B pipe, oem electrics and oem pump.

Is anyone able to tell whats the limit/balance of displacement x oem ign+enhancer x oem pump (may consider Solas 144 mag) x B pipe??

Anyone running 8 or bigger crank w/oem pump, oem ign and B pipe??

Dont want to recharge battery after each ride (msd tl ONLY concern)...
Dont want to run 3gallon tank (pfp concern)...
Pump only concern is budget. Since it will not be a PURE freestyle engine, not considering any huge pumps.

ANY suggestion is more than welcome.

Thanks

Gera

I'm running a small cc x-scream 8mil. 802 on a b-pipe, enhancer, stock charging system. stock pump 14/19 tbm combo , stock gas tank ect... it's plenty of power for freestyle. Don't think any more power would help me due to at this point i would have to change and go with a bigger pump, total loss ect... maybe next time i might go with a stock stroke bigger maybe 900cc. i won't go with out the charging system, or a small tank.

 

[geraban19]

LTD,
So, you have a big motor and PFP an still runs 144 Mag...is it setback???
As I can perceive, You dont feel that U need a bigger pump...you more intended to go TL.


About the comments above... IMHO, Full Spectrums are easy to tune. They work good from 701 limiteds to monster engines and even if they are bad tunned the motor still runs nice. The Riva Power bombs are fine but are very dependable of a well tune.

JR freestyle is Paul Leer??

 

[geraban19]

It doesn't make sense to put a big engine that size in stock hull surely?
The big power is for back flips and your hull is not the best bet for flips!

I had some diferent hulls in the past....im just going back to the past having a "part of the history" last SJ manufactured. I just want to have a recreational reliable easy to ride ski.

I understand your point and this thread is to measure what is the cost and benefit better choice.

I had 8mm x 85mm casted DASA with 140 Magnum in the past and that was enough.... So I know it works but in this one I had MSD TL and now I dont want to go this way.

 

[L.T.D]

It is a non setback pump in a q8. I do not feel I need a bigger pump. I will move to totaloss when I get use to the motor the way it is

 

[geraban19]

It is a non setback pump in a q8. I do not feel I need a bigger pump. I will move to totaloss when I get use to the motor the way it is

Very good feedback.

I want to stick 144mm non setback for budget and maintence since it is easy to rebuild if an issue occurs.

I will be next weekend at Lenzi's and so I will see whats between the pros and the kids.

 

[Schmidty721]

I just wonder why manufacturers are not making pipes like Speedwerx, type 4, type.... All of those allowed us to keep the oem thank.

So why not sell the B pipe and pick one of the above up? Your going to make way more power on a dry pipe with an engine the size that your talking. As long as it fits in the hull, run one.

 

[geraban19]

So why not sell the B pipe and pick one of the above up? Your going to make way more power on a dry pipe with an engine the size that your talking. As long as it fits in the hull, run one.

1st reason: All specs for big engines are for PFP or b pipe.

2nd reason: I dont know if valves will hit the pipe.

3rd reason: I dont think that an ADA bracket is gonna fit that DASA heads. I dont even think that those heads has a bolt thread for that.

I may have a Sppedwerx around.

 

[L.T.D]

I don't think you'll be able to clear powervalves with a dry pipe. The rub the ada girdled heads so doubt theirs room for powervalves

 

[Waveblaster785]

No doubt there is more power in the total loss. The ignitions are all equivalent in spark its just the adjustability. The real weak point in my personal opinion are the coils.