Looking for opinions on 10mm 1100 motors. Going to be looking for a new motor soon and I'm trying to see what everyone's opinion is on the available 1100cc motors. Pros and cons of each and which one creates the most power. Basically anyone that has experience with a couple different motors opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Dasa vs Xscream vs Tpe 1100cc
- Thread starter davidk131
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I had a dasa 970 10mm and then a tpe 1105 and the tpe is way better all around. Can't speak of brand X but I did hear a rumor they were looking into also producing a cast cylinder so TPE must be on to something.
Tyrant1919
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Best opinion you can get is your own, if you can meet up with someone buy them a case of beer and demo their motor, of course every motor depends how it's setup and tuned, but get your own feel for the power. I'm personally a fan of the TPE,
Yeah I understand the motors have to be setup properly. Just trying to get people opinions. If properly setup which one will go the longest between rebuilds, make the most power, most reliable, etc. I know there is a lot of variables but if everything is even across the board which one would u choose?
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TPE or dasa, personally I haven't rode a xscream 1000, but I've heard lots of horror stories .... Everyone has their opinion
NVJAY775
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I'd hit up Philip Clemons on here. Shooting him a PM would be best. He's rode all the set ups you're asking about and is an honest guy and phenomenal tuner on the setups you're asking about. But riding the different setups is the best. So long as they're set up right and can give you an honest feel of what they're capable of. So many set up variables to take into consideration.... I'm loving my TPE SS 964, but haven't ridden anything else, so my opinion doesn't count lol!
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You rode my 1105 tuned by phil.
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- the jetski grave yard
john kaizer still uses the XS1000 in his hurricane and pulls off multiple trick combos. back when i was totally lame, i used to think the ski/power plant was the determining factor. its the rider!!!
DAG
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TPE customer support has been extremely nice.
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I can't comment on the other brands but I have 2 Dasa motors (10mm 1100cc and a 5mm 908cc) and really like them both. Kyle at Dasa has been great to deal with. I have spent hours on the phone and he always takes time to explain things and answer my questions. That being said, I don't think there's a bad choice in the three motors you are looking at. Its a major purchase by most people's standards so, my advice would be to call all three manufacturers and see what they have to say... Talking to them should give you an idea of the type of support you will get in the future.
Edit: I just wanted to add that Kyle actually called me back when he was on holidays... I think that's a great example of the support I have received.
Edit: I just wanted to add that Kyle actually called me back when he was on holidays... I think that's a great example of the support I have received.
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@ChadGnarly (raddudes) has the tpe1100 and says its awesome drop him a pm
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I run the tpe 1105 and its awesome , absolutely awesome, just got a 964 as well, but havnt done anything with that yet
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Jace Forest...BRAP!
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Please do tell about these horror stories.
I have had my XS1200 since May, almost 4 months. Try and burn 5 gallons a day. I've put 350+ gallons of fuel thru it riding HARD and it's still running like a top. Just saying....
I have rode all them, I could give you a honest opinion but it's not what everyone else wants to hear so just listen to the people that haven't rode them all
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Well said, I've only had a DASA (which I was extremely pleased with) and the OP is asking for opinion from someone with experience on all 3 (not 5 min). Not a lot of people that have had time on all these motors Jace, small club.
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Jace Forest...BRAP!
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First, what kind of money are you looking to spend? Xscream's stuff is the most expensive but, there is a reason for that.
Second, you have to remember with Dasa it all depends on who builds it. A Hiro built Dasa can't even compare to a Blowsion built Dasa. With a XS engine they are all built by the same guy, Chuck, and all built right.
It also depends on what style of riding you do. That's where you test riding everything comes into play. I'll get more into this later.
My opinion:
They all have enough power for you.
I think Dasa and TPE have a huge amount of bottom end, more than a XS. I think between the Dasa and TPE, the TPE is better. It has more bottom end snap and pulls a little better than a Dasa.
I feel both those lack in true "power" when compared to a XS engine.
A XS1200 doesn't have that super snappy bottom end but, pulls like a freight train mid to top, enough to scare you, enough for you to be scared to pull the throttle all the way.
Now, that's where your ride style comes into play. If you just want to go out and do a single trick I'd say a Dasa or TPE is more up your alley.
If you want to do big combos I'd say XS1200 all day or even a XS900rr. During a combo when you land your first trick and go for the second trick you are already past the low end of the powerband. That's why you want more mid to top, to pull you thru the next trick.
Even with all that said, the best thing you can do is test ride all of them before dropping the coin
Second, you have to remember with Dasa it all depends on who builds it. A Hiro built Dasa can't even compare to a Blowsion built Dasa. With a XS engine they are all built by the same guy, Chuck, and all built right.
It also depends on what style of riding you do. That's where you test riding everything comes into play. I'll get more into this later.
My opinion:
They all have enough power for you.
I think Dasa and TPE have a huge amount of bottom end, more than a XS. I think between the Dasa and TPE, the TPE is better. It has more bottom end snap and pulls a little better than a Dasa.
I feel both those lack in true "power" when compared to a XS engine.
A XS1200 doesn't have that super snappy bottom end but, pulls like a freight train mid to top, enough to scare you, enough for you to be scared to pull the throttle all the way.
Now, that's where your ride style comes into play. If you just want to go out and do a single trick I'd say a Dasa or TPE is more up your alley.
If you want to do big combos I'd say XS1200 all day or even a XS900rr. During a combo when you land your first trick and go for the second trick you are already past the low end of the powerband. That's why you want more mid to top, to pull you thru the next trick.
Even with all that said, the best thing you can do is test ride all of them before dropping the coin
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Since you've spent some qualitytime on all 3 Jace, do you feel that the mid to high powerband of the XS motors is something that is "tuned" in, or is it a general property of the power plant? Is it partially a product of say the modified PFP or some other bolt on/tuned part of the drivetrain? I think this would be beneficial info for the OP (and me too). Glad to hear that longevity of your more is reasonable and might dispel all the reliability issues you hear about "strokers" in general.
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Jace Forest...BRAP!
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The XS1200 is built for mid to top power. It's not because of the bolt ons. A lot of people don't know that Pat (owner of Team Xscream) is a awesome rider who shreds. Because of him and Jason Stoyer they have the rider input to build the amazing stuff they do thru rider input.
If you wanted a bottom end monster you could call them and ask to have it built for bottom end.
And I was just talking with Pat today about engine longevity.
The engine will only be as good as the person who built it and how well you maintain it.
I don't hydro lock my engine, I warm it up before rides, use good oil and fuel and the result it a engine that will stay running
If you wanted a bottom end monster you could call them and ask to have it built for bottom end.
And I was just talking with Pat today about engine longevity.
The engine will only be as good as the person who built it and how well you maintain it.
I don't hydro lock my engine, I warm it up before rides, use good oil and fuel and the result it a engine that will stay running