So if you`re in the same shoes as i was a few months ago or sick and tired of buying unreliable used ignitions for top dollar here is the solution for you if you already have a TL flywheel and pickup plate.
Beginning of this summer i bought a used ATP TS1 total loss for a good chunk of change after a few weeks of using the unit my starter shorted out and burned the cdi out. After that i went back to my old reliable old school MSD total loss but a bad trigger pickup shorted the brain out, so i ended up with no ignition left to use (since i don`t have a stocker)
I ended up searching for something i can fit into a jetski without reinventing the wheel. I came across a small MSD single cylinder programmable battery powered cdi unit for a really reasonable price brand new the MSD 4217
I have been running the unit for the last two months without any issues, so i can say now this is just as good as any other total loss on the market right now
Here are parts list you need to get to make this work for your application:
MSD 4217
5 pin relay (any fully sealed relay will work)
Hall effect sensor
http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/55100-3H-02-A/55100-3H-02-A-ND/565511
A block of hard plastic or something you can mount the sensor to (sorry i don`t have a picture of mine mounted)
Coil (any oem or aftermarket will work)
Flywheel ( Jetinetics, MSD does not really matter as long as it has two magnets)
Pick up plate ( MSD, ATP)
Two switches (OCD Solutions Surf Armor or any other), one for powering your circuit and the other one is for the curve A/B
Starter relay
The unit comes with all necessary wiring/connectors
The wiring is really simple for the unit but here it is anyway.
PIC1
Let`s start with the relay for the lanyard using a Kawasaki start/stop switch
Pin 85 (ground)
Pin 30 (positive) --> stop switch
Pin 86 --> stop switch
Pin 87a --> power supply to the unit (violet) and the hall sensor
Pin 87 Blank/empty
First switch fused positive from the battery goes to Pin 30 on the relay just attach it to the wire anywhere going to your stop/lanyard switch.
The Hall sensor has three wires positive, ground and signal, don`t screw this up make sure you attach the wires to the right place. The white wire at the unit is your signal from the hall sensor.
If you`re using two MSD coils hook it up in series, OEM coils just attach the positive/negative.
You don`t need to use the tps and the Mag trigger wires just remove them from the connector.
That`s it for the wiring.
Programming the unit:
Two things you have to do before you start making your curve the first is set your rev limit to 16.000 rpm if you want an 8.000 rpm limit you need to do this because the unit is made for single cylinder engines.
Second set your `tach in` to raw hall and your pickup reference to 10 degrees that`s the width of the magnet in degrees.
Now you can make your curve just remember the curve has to be extended to 16.000 rpm, just like this one
No static timing required just set it to TDC.
If you`re using an OEM coil you can fit everything into a stock ebox. I have it on a plate since the MSD coils are too big.
Enjoy the fully programmable ignition for the fraction of the cost of a watercraft total loss.
Beginning of this summer i bought a used ATP TS1 total loss for a good chunk of change after a few weeks of using the unit my starter shorted out and burned the cdi out. After that i went back to my old reliable old school MSD total loss but a bad trigger pickup shorted the brain out, so i ended up with no ignition left to use (since i don`t have a stocker)
I ended up searching for something i can fit into a jetski without reinventing the wheel. I came across a small MSD single cylinder programmable battery powered cdi unit for a really reasonable price brand new the MSD 4217
I have been running the unit for the last two months without any issues, so i can say now this is just as good as any other total loss on the market right now
Here are parts list you need to get to make this work for your application:
MSD 4217
5 pin relay (any fully sealed relay will work)
Hall effect sensor
http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/55100-3H-02-A/55100-3H-02-A-ND/565511
A block of hard plastic or something you can mount the sensor to (sorry i don`t have a picture of mine mounted)
Coil (any oem or aftermarket will work)
Flywheel ( Jetinetics, MSD does not really matter as long as it has two magnets)
Pick up plate ( MSD, ATP)
Two switches (OCD Solutions Surf Armor or any other), one for powering your circuit and the other one is for the curve A/B
Starter relay
The unit comes with all necessary wiring/connectors
The wiring is really simple for the unit but here it is anyway.
PIC1
Let`s start with the relay for the lanyard using a Kawasaki start/stop switch
Pin 85 (ground)
Pin 30 (positive) --> stop switch
Pin 86 --> stop switch
Pin 87a --> power supply to the unit (violet) and the hall sensor
Pin 87 Blank/empty
First switch fused positive from the battery goes to Pin 30 on the relay just attach it to the wire anywhere going to your stop/lanyard switch.
The Hall sensor has three wires positive, ground and signal, don`t screw this up make sure you attach the wires to the right place. The white wire at the unit is your signal from the hall sensor.
If you`re using two MSD coils hook it up in series, OEM coils just attach the positive/negative.
You don`t need to use the tps and the Mag trigger wires just remove them from the connector.
That`s it for the wiring.
Programming the unit:
Two things you have to do before you start making your curve the first is set your rev limit to 16.000 rpm if you want an 8.000 rpm limit you need to do this because the unit is made for single cylinder engines.
Second set your `tach in` to raw hall and your pickup reference to 10 degrees that`s the width of the magnet in degrees.
Now you can make your curve just remember the curve has to be extended to 16.000 rpm, just like this one
No static timing required just set it to TDC.
If you`re using an OEM coil you can fit everything into a stock ebox. I have it on a plate since the MSD coils are too big.
Enjoy the fully programmable ignition for the fraction of the cost of a watercraft total loss.
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