ELECTRIC IS HERE!

Location
Stockton
Some EV charger info…

Wonder if the jet ski will have a level 2 charger option or just level 1… or if they will have an adapter cord for any of these commercial charging stations, which would be cool…

 
Location
minnesota
A lot of hate for something that in reality is the only shot our sport has surviving for our kids or grand kids. Now don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the sound of a petrol burning machine singing along at wide open throttle. But we are fighting a loosing battle. The best we can do is hang on to our beloved gas burning machines and do what we can to keep them alive but at the same time start to explore other avenues for when the inevitable happens. So keep your stock waterboxes on, ride respectfully and try not to stay in one area to long so we can keep our gas burning jetskis around as long as possible. And remember, yes your ski sounds badass at wfo....but they sound like dog poop when you are just cruising around casually and that's where I see a huge benefit to an electric ski. There are plenty of us who just want to cruise around for a half hour after work and get wet.
 
That fad is how the majority of mankind is wired.
The dinosaurs. Funny how the 20 and 30 yr Olds. Embrace electric. The majority of them. To deny its the future is to be plain ol ignorant. Same guys said obd2 was a nightmare when it first came out. Now look.

Imagine not disturbing nature so you get to ride in refuges. Imagine not leaking oil all over the place. Imagine not pissing off every Karen and their mom when you try and enjoy having fun your way.

As far as I know. Gas is at best 55 percent efficient for getting the energy out of it with internal combustion. And that is on the extreme end of performance. It's typically more around 30 percent. So the fact gas has 10 times the potential energy doesn't really matter.
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
Luckily for me I came from a Motorcycle tech background, this means I started working on four strokes first, I learned about fuel injection when working at the Kawasaki shop years ago, so when the four stroke skis came out it wasn't a big learning curve for me, most of the older Yamaha's and Kawis were repurposed motorcycle engines anyway , the Seadoo four stroke was a bit of a learning curve, but I won't be learning how to work on electric vehicles, enough is enough.
 

hornedogg79

dodgin' bass boats
Electric transportation seems to be the future whether I like it or not but don't fool yourself into thinking that it's replacing oil. More e-cars on the road than ever but oil consumption still trends upward. Coal power plants are being replaced with combined cycle plants aka oil and natural gas. Something has to power the grid. Nuclear could but it takes us about 20years to get one plant up and running. We'll just burn our oil out of sight and pat ourselves on the back.
 

Aquaholic

World's Oldest Teenager
Location
San Diego, CA.
The dinosaurs. Funny how the 20 and 30 yr Olds. Embrace electric. The majority of them. To deny its the future is to be plain ol ignorant. Same guys said obd2 was a nightmare when it first came out. Now look.

Imagine not disturbing nature so you get to ride in refuges. Imagine not leaking oil all over the place. Imagine not pissing off every Karen and their mom when you try and enjoy having fun your way.

As far as I know. Gas is at best 55 percent efficient for getting the energy out of it with internal combustion. And that is on the extreme end of performance. It's typically more around 30 percent. So the fact gas has 10 times the potential energy doesn't really matter.
It's too bad dinasours don't still roam the earth. I mean...really they were truly badass. I'd venture to say waaaay more badass than anything you can find today. I hear a lot of 20 and 30-somethings chirping about how gnarly honey badgers are. But, c'mon!

Anyway, My perspective is also colored by the fact that The San Diego region completely sucks as far as PWC goes. It doesn't matter if its electric or not. They are not going to let PWC back on any of our fresh water venues. They're not even interested in discussing it.

BTW, Karens will always find something to squawk about...it's what they do.


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I hope my jetski is just considered a fringe vintage boat in the future. I’ll be purrrring around the waterways in 2060 at the ripe old age of 75 with my stock 701. Come to think of it, the engine will only be 43 years old, something akin to a 1980 440 today!

As for the electric jet ski, I’m sure its day will come. I just hope when it does it isn’t the size and weight of the titanic (sxr1500). And that they don’t outlaw being a dinosaur and liking old things.
 
Location
dfw
The dinosaurs. Funny how the 20 and 30 yr Olds. Embrace electric. The majority of them. To deny its the future is to be plain ol ignorant. Same guys said obd2 was a nightmare when it first came out. Now look.

Imagine not disturbing nature so you get to ride in refuges. Imagine not leaking oil all over the place. Imagine not pissing off every Karen and their mom when you try and enjoy having fun your way.

As far as I know. Gas is at best 55 percent efficient for getting the energy out of it with internal combustion. And that is on the extreme end of performance. It's typically more around 30 percent. So the fact gas has 10 times the potential energy doesn't really matter.
All we need is a battery that weighs no more than 50lbs, that can produce 100hp, and has an acceptable amount of run time. Right now Li-Po can make enough power for a few minutes and/or a few flips. The extra work and expense involved will weed out nearly every current participant who isn't a gazzilionaire. As far as disturbing nature (or karens) , jet pumps are too loud even if the powerplant is silent. Technology has a tendency to plateau at times. 30 years ago they said we would be able to price everything in a loaded shopping cart by just pushing it near a sensor. It didn't work out that way did it. Now they just make the CUSTOMER scan everything one at a time like I saw it done in 1979!
 
Also, charging. You can easily bring another jug of gas to the lake, you can't easily bring anything that will charge a large battery quickly. Keep in mind that if a battery can sustain for example 100hp for 20 minutes, that means ignoring inefficiencies (which will be significant) you're looking at needing 100hp worth of charging for 20 minutes. Reality is with inefficiencies you'll be more like 150hp for 20 minutes. Going to bring along a 150hp generator to the lake?

OR bring another battery to swap out, this is the most expensive part of the whole electric drivetrain.

Possibly could do some sort of piggyback setup with an electric car, or stick an old tesla battery on a trailer for charging your watercraft.

So, it's not impossible, but it is one of the big obstacles.

Or, don't electrify the existing vehicle, design a new vehicle that lends itself better to electric power. Efoil maybe? Those are already a thing.

We could just wind surf I guess.
 
Location
Alabama
I hope my jetski is just considered a fringe vintage boat in the future. I’ll be purrrring around the waterways in 2060 at the ripe old age of 75 with my stock 701. Come to think of it, the engine will only be 43 years old, something akin to a 1980 440 today!

As for the electric jet ski, I’m sure its day will come. I just hope when it does it isn’t the size and weight of the titanic (sxr1500). And that they don’t outlaw being a dinosaur and liking old things.
Gasoline engines will be outlawed by then. You will be chased down by the flying police aircars. Are you familiar with rush's red barchetta?

 
I'm not talking jet skis. I'm talking everything. I'm a fleet mechanic. I service everything from a weed eater. To a control valve with 8 banks. I whole heartedly welcome electric. Half of the machines I work on are a tye of hybrid. And the entire industry is investing huge sums of money into electric. We have been notified all our small equipment must be electric by I think 2030. Cali sets the trends for green. The rest follow suit. Jump on board the bus. Or get ran over.

I'd much rather swap.a battery. Instead of splicing gas all over the inside of my hull. Wouldn't have to go to gas stations and deal with crackhead either. That in itself is worth the swap to electric anything.
 
Seems like not having crackheads at gas stations is a better fantasy if we're talking about stuff in the future that we're hoping for. But...I assume your talking about California so I suppose it's more reasonable to hope for huge improvements in battery technology.
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
The more of this electric nonsense I see come out the more my Air powered ski makes a lot of sense, If I could get my hands on the engine I would build a prototype , regrettably the guys that designed the engine don't want to produce it.

That engine weighs less than 10lbs requires no cooling, no exhaust , no openings cut through the hull except for the driveshaft and a cable, no electronics needed to run it just two Aluminum or Carbon fiber scuba tanks mounted under the deck. Technically it is still powered by electricity but there is no end use problem like there is on all electric vehicles, similar run time to electric two minute recharging times or make access plates where you could remove the tanks without disassembly of the ski, at worse bolt the two halves of the ski together like a Seadoo Spark and carry extra tanks to swap out..

They have successfully powered a lawnmower , car, motorcycle, an outboard engine , a fork lift and a go cart with it thus far.

You want an idea that will save the planet and let you continue to ride your ski , this is it.




 
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