Other electrical issue wont click or crank. fixed.

[WFO Speedracer]

The red wire only powers the start switch, other than a wire coming off the regulator going back to the + post to charge the battery that circuit is totally separate from everything else.Take you volt ohm meter set it on 12 volts and starting at the end of the fuse holder start checking for 12v ,install the fuse and work you way up the red wire and through the switch till you find the problem. Also check continuity between the negative post on the battery and the negative post in the E-box, then back to the engine. The whole system except for the starter is grounded off one small wire coming from the stator.

 

[MDStandUp]

tried jumping the ground from the ebox to the engine. i guess that would mean a bad ground on the stator currect? stator is ground through the 2 screws that set the timing right? its not that. the real pain in all this is i cant find my meter.

 

[Buckwild12]

I'm pretty sure the ebox grounds through the wires that attach to the stator, the green wires to be specific. That ski is too close to being finished to burn down now!

 

[onlyFX-1]

I would guess it is your starter soleniod. The "posts" that you said the positive from the battery and positive from the starter are going to is the starter soleniod.

 

[MDStandUp]

yeah it may be that. lets back up. on a stock sj there are to power wires coming out of the top of the ebox (minus the heat sensor). describe what each one would look like and what they are to hook to. they both look similiar but one has that black heat protecting skin around it. its actually the same stuff many of us use as bildge hose but smaller and the other has a slicker red covering that is much longer.
which go where. black stuff to the starter right?

 

[Idok]

did you jump the solenoid with a screwdriver???

 

[MDStandUp]

dont think i did. what would that prove? bad solenoid?

 

[onlyFX-1]

If you jump it at the solenoid and it turns over then you have a bad solenoid I think

 

[masterblaster]

thats no diff than supplying power to the brown wire the way you did,try jumping the brown and red wire at the female connector,with a paper clip,make sure those connections are really clean

 

[munki63]

According to post 1&3 it can't be the solenoid

 

[masterblaster]

ive seen it in the female connector more than once

 

[Waternut]

If you jump it at the solenoid and it turns over then you have a bad solenoid I think

Not necessarily. It could also mean your wire is bad and not activating the solenoid properly.

Step 1: You should have 4 terminals on the starter solenoid. 2 big battery cables and 2 small wires. I believe the 2 small wires are brown and black. Take some alligator clips and hook the black directly to the negative terminal on the battery. Then briefly touch the brown wire to the positive terminal on the battery. If you hear a click or the engine starts cranking, the solenoid is good. If not, replace the solenoid.

Step 2: If the solenoid checks out, disconnect the black wire from the battery and touch the brown wire to the battery again. If you get nothing, your stator ground is bad. If it works your switch wiring is jacked up.

Step 3: If you heard a click from the solenoid but the engine didn't crank, either your starter is bad or your ground cable to the starter is bad.

You have to isolate known good and unknowns. NO ASSUMING!! Let us know how this quick test turns out and we'll go from there.

 

[Buckwild12]

This is like house for jetskis, we should have a tv show

 

[WaveDemon]

I'm pretty sure the ebox grounds through the wires that attach to the stator, the green wires to be specific. That ski is too close to being finished to burn down now!

It does ground to the stator but not the green wires, it's a black wire.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Make sure you have the lead that goes to the fuse on the post that goes to the battery +, I know this sounds simple but I have seen people put that lead on the starter post of the relay many times. It causes the exact symptoms you are describing and just looking at it it looks correct.

 

[WaveDemon]

While you're testing your brown and red wires disconnect the black and white wire connector that goes to the start/stop switch.

You really need a volt meter to test this stuff. Go to walmart and buy a cheap one and see what is getting power and what isn't.

Also, the MSD enhancer wiring diagram is useful when figuring out what isn't working right.

 

[OCD Solutions]

Make sure you have the lead that goes to the fuse on the post that goes to the battery +, I know this sounds simple but I have seen people put that lead on the starter post of the relay many times. It causes the exact symptoms you are describing and just looking at it it looks correct.

This is what I was thinking too. Not sure how the blame got on the solenoid since the ski cranks just fine when the brown touches the battery.

 

[MDStandUp]

not necessarily. It could also mean your wire is bad and not activating the solenoid properly.

Step 1: You should have 4 terminals on the starter solenoid. 2 big battery cables and 2 small wires. I believe the 2 small wires are brown and black. Take some alligator clips and hook the black directly to the negative terminal on the battery. Then briefly touch the brown wire to the positive terminal on the battery. If you hear a click or the engine starts cranking, the solenoid is good. If not, replace the solenoid.

Step 2: If the solenoid checks out, disconnect the black wire from the battery and touch the brown wire to the battery again. If you get nothing, your stator ground is bad. If it works your switch wiring is jacked up.

Step 3: If you heard a click from the solenoid but the engine didn't crank, either your starter is bad or your ground cable to the starter is bad.

You have to isolate known good and unknowns. No assuming!! Let us know how this quick test turns out and we'll go from there.

great information. I will dry all this and get back to you

thats no diff than supplying power to the brown wire the way you did,try jumping the brown and red wire at the female connector,with a paper clip,make sure those connections are really clean

nothing. That was one of the first things i tried out.

make sure you have the lead that goes to the fuse on the post that goes to the battery +, i know this sounds simple but i have seen people put that lead on the starter post of the relay many times. It causes the exact symptoms you are describing and just looking at it it looks correct.

it is not. This was hard wired in with the larger 6ga cable. It is not on the hot side that i could touch the brown to and get it to crank. I did try to swap the cables and still nothing. I put it back so that the red line is on the starter line. In other words touching the red line to the battery didnt do anything.

while you're testing your brown and red wires disconnect the black and white wire connector that goes to the start/stop switch.

You really need a volt meter to test this stuff. Go to walmart and buy a cheap one and see what is getting power and what isn't.

Also, the msd enhancer wiring diagram is useful when figuring out what isn't working right.

ill try it with the white/black disconnected. Those lines are the stop portion on the switch right. Ill be getting a meter tomorrow.

Thanks for all your help so far.

 

[OCD Solutions]

You have the starter wire run to the battery and the battery wire run to the starter. You need to swap the other ends of the red wires...The heavy guage wire with the small red lead should be connected to the battery.

 

[MDStandUp]

You have the starter wire run to the battery and the battery wire run to the starter. You need to swap the other ends of the red wires...The heavy guage wire with the small red lead should be connected to the battery.

that WAS true. somehow i screwed that up. would doing that fry something making this a different problem?