First mods for a new SJ?

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Skifanatic88

Official Newbie
Location
Toledo, Ohio
This fall i turned from the darkside of couchriding (had a 02 RXDI) to standups. Although i loved it, i wanted something differant. I rode a my neighbors kawi 750 before so i decided i wanted to go with a standup and from what i read on here and on pwctoday the SJ was the better one to go with for rec riding although it was a hard choice. So i traded my RX in and got a 06 SJ. I did get a chance to ride it about 6-7 times before it got to cold (damn Ohio weather!!!)
Anyways what mods should i do first? I wanna wait on the footholds til next winter. After reading just about every post i can in the past few months regarding SJ mods. What should i start off with that will be fairly easy for someone like myself? I will list things from what i have read: (feel free to correct me if i am wrong, i would rather find out now than after i order them) BTW i ride on a 200+ which is basicly flatwater except on the weekends it can get busy. Plus Lake erie is about 20 min away. So basicly i ride on flatwater. Lemme know any suggestions you have. If something doesn't make sense or if i left something out don't be suprised it's late and i'm tired.

Intake: worx 201
Prop: Not really sure, i have read differant things. I read that solas is better and i also read skat track is better. Also what pitch?
0-Degree bars
ODI grips(not sure which one tho)
Bilge pump(how many gph should i go with?)

I'm not gonna do everything at once but what should i go with first. What am i missing? My ski will be for rec use only don't plan on doing any competing with it. Also if there is any other sites beside blowsion that you reccomend buying from let me know. I probly have them bookmarked but Blowsion is the one i see refrenced most. :cheer: :cheer: :newbie: :feedback:
 
MADMAT

MADMAT

Location
Ohio
Man I don't even know where to start.

I guess start with the steering and the prop. 2 worst stock things I can think this early.

Complete X metal steering system will give you a -2" feel without doing any cutting.

Changing that prop will really wake up the boat. 13/16 cutback maybe?
 
butti

butti

lone wolf
Location
F-XTC
one of my favorite skis to ride around here belongs to a freind of mine.its an 06 with shortened stock pole,intake grate,swirl prop and footholds/turf.best bang for the buck IMO. i could be happy with that ski just how it is for a long time.

first thing i would do is shorten the pole,thats free! next would be an impeller.i like the concorde 13/15. i have not tried a skat.
 
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onesojourner

onesojourner

I use a thumb throttle.
Location
springfield, mo
if it were me foot holds would be first but I understand you hesitation. if I had just bought a brand new ski I would no want to cut big holes in it eather, especially if I had never done it before. if you go with a new steering set up from xmetal don't forget you also have to get the umi mounting system and thats 133 bucks plus shipping on top of the xmetal. go attwood its half the price of the rule.
 
aqua

aqua

the taco
Location
Jefferson City, MO
I agree with onesojourner. If I were you I would get the footholds first and then a intake grate, prop, and pipe. I have a worx 201 and solas 13/15 and I like it. Pipe can come later if you are not good at riding yet. The 0 degrees bars and short steering are good for tricks but will make you a bit more uncomfy when riding around....add those later when you try to get more involved. You could also have your flywheel lightened for 50 bucks that will add a bit of response. ODI grips are sweet....love mine...I have the fatter ones and they feel real nice. Blowsion has a nice selection and they are nice and helpful on the phone but have messed up on almost every order I have placed through them. They are always willing to fix it though.
 
IceRocket1286

IceRocket1286

Site Supporter
Location
Metro Detroit
Jet dynamics intake grates work very well. Just my .02

First just get an intake grate, new bars with whatever grips you want, maybe a steering system (stock steering does suck.) A prop would also be good. A bilge pump is never a bad investment either.

Dont do things backwards and get footholds, a lighter flywheel, and a pipe first. thats just stupid. Learn to ride the ski and get used to it, and have fun. Then get the more powerful mods.
 
FLY6584

FLY6584

Location
Clearwater, FL
Honestly I think it's best to take it in stages kind of like Wamiltons steps he has on his website. I know they're kinda cheesy and his packages definitely are not the cheapest route, but I agree with his logic.

This is how I would do it.

Stage 1
-Worx 201 Intake Grate/JD Intake Grate
-Skat Swirl
-Aftermarket Ride Plate if you're like me and you like the ski to corner well/ D-Cut your stock ride plate if you like the loose feel

Stage 2
-Footholds/Turf
-Shorten Stock Handlepole
-ODeg or Straight Bars and Grips(Shortened Turn Plate and UMI Steering if you dont mind spending a little more)
-Seal Stock Hood!!!

Stage 3
-Bpipe
-Girdled Head
-Carbon Tech Low Tension Reeds (Until you're ready to spend the big bucks on some really good reeds)

Stage 4
-Enhancer/Modified Stock CDI
-Lightened Flywheel

Stage 5
-Porting
-Bigger Carbs
-Better Reeds


Right now I've completed stages 1-3 and a few other things I have added along the way. So far I am very very happy with my setup. :Banane01:

Whats really cool about doing it that way is if you're someone like me who is relatively new to the sport and wrenching then you can do pretty much everything yourself up until Stage 5. When it comes to tuning the ski the package you have put together is such a common package that you can get a ton of help and guidance. I've learned so much in the past couple of months setting up my ski and definitely wouldn't have been able to do it without the X and some really helpful friends.

:hail: :hail: :hail: X-H20

By the time you are ready to get into Porting and bigger carbs you have a good understanding of the 701 and you'll be able to get the most out of and properly tune that new ported motor.

Good Luck:biggthumpup:
 
norcal ex

norcal ex

X-H2
Location
San Jose, CA
FLY6584 said:
Honestly I think it's best to take it in stages kind of like Wamiltons steps he has on his website. I know they're kinda cheesy and his packages definitely are not the cheapest route, but I agree with his logic.

This is how I would do it.

Stage 1
-Worx 201 Intake Grate/JD Intake Grate
-Skat Swirl
-Aftermarket Ride Plate if you're like me and you like the ski to corner well/ D-Cut your stock ride plate if you like the loose feel

Stage 2
-Footholds/Turf
-Shorten Stock Handlepole
-ODeg or Straight Bars and Grips(Shortened Turn Plate and UMI Steering if you dont mind spending a little more)
-Seal Stock Hood!!!

Stage 3
-Bpipe
-Girdled Head
-Carbon Tech Low Tension Reeds (Until you're ready to spend the big bucks on some really good reeds)

Stage 4
-Enhancer/Modified Stock CDI
-Lightened Flywheel

Stage 5
-Porting
-Bigger Carbs
-Better Reeds


Right now I've completed stages 1-3 and a few other things I have added along the way. So far I am very very happy with my setup. :Banane01:

Whats really cool about doing it that way is if you're someone like me who is relatively new to the sport and wrenching then you can do pretty much everything yourself up until Stage 5. When it comes to tuning the ski the package you have put together is such a common package that you can get a ton of help and guidance. I've learned so much in the past couple of months setting up my ski and definitely wouldn't have been able to do it without the X and some really helpful friends.

:hail: :hail: :hail: X-H20

By the time you are ready to get into Porting and bigger carbs you have a good understanding of the 701 and you'll be able to get the most out of and properly tune that new ported motor.

Good Luck:biggthumpup:
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i agree with these stages! no matter what, when you get a pipe i fully recomend that you get a girdled head also...
 
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rebelwalker

onesojourner said:
if it were me foot holds would be first but I understand you hesitation. if I had just bought a brand new ski I would no want to cut big holes in it eather, especially if I had never done it before. if you go with a new steering set up from xmetal don't forget you also have to get the umi mounting system and thats 133 bucks plus shipping on top of the xmetal. go attwood its half the price of the rule.
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Couldnt agree more.
 
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Skifanatic88

Official Newbie
Location
Toledo, Ohio
Alright i will look into the things you guys have suggested and i will keep ya updated. Heres a picture that i took last fall.

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thegoldenboy

thegoldenboy

RN Surgery... soon
Location
Toronto
1st Mod - Footholds/Turf
2nd mod - Shorten pole (free)
3rd mod - Prop
4th mod - Waterdawg hood and nosepiece (get rid of that nostril looking OEM piece).
 
FLY6584

FLY6584

Location
Clearwater, FL
thegoldenboy said:
1st Mod - Footholds/Turf
2nd mod - Shorten pole (free)
3rd mod - Prop
4th mod - Waterdawg hood and nosepiece (get rid of that nostril looking OEM piece).
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I completely disagree with the hood and nosepiece if you're on a budget. You are much better off spending that money on a Bpipe and a Girdled Head.

Aftermarket hoods/nosepieces look great and definitely have functionality to them, but I would MUCH rather have the VERY noticeable gains in performance that you get from a Bpipe and Head and just stick with a sealed up stock hood.

Yeah sure the lowered hood and nosepiece will lower your cg a little, but nothing compares to the bang for your buck that you get from a bpipe and head.:biggthumpup:
 
thegoldenboy

thegoldenboy

RN Surgery... soon
Location
Toronto
FLY6584 said:
I completely disagree with the hood and nosepiece if you're on a budget. You are much better off spending that money on a Bpipe and a Girdled Head.

Aftermarket hoods/nosepieces look great and definitely have functionality to them, but I would MUCH rather have the VERY noticeable gains in performance that you get from a Bpipe and Head and just stick with a sealed up stock hood.

Yeah sure the lowered hood and nosepiece will lower your cg a little, but nothing compares to the bang for your buck that you get from a bpipe and head.:biggthumpup:
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Who said anything about being on a budget? It was just indicated to take it in steps. Actually, you indicated to him to take it in steps... Although he mentioned "not doing everything at once..."

He is riding flatwater mainly. Get the man a real hood. Its $400... Whats the big deal? He has a $6000 investment, $400 is nothing. For flatwater my first mods wouldn't be a rideplate or intake grate. Everyone is different, maybe the stock plate works for him? Let him ride it and figure that out, don't change it if its working for him. If anything change the grate, but not right away....

IceRocket- I'd definately get footholds before a prop. Why not? He needs to learn to ride the machine and get control of the boat before he needs a new prop... :rolleyes:

You even told him not to add power until he learns the boat.... Don't confuse him by putting footholds in the same sentance as pipe and flywheel....

What good is a new prop if you arn't comfortable handling and jumping the machine? The benefits don't apply to you, and by the time your ready for the prop its probabaly been dinged already and you'll need to refinish.

I learned on a stock prop, but with holds. Now when I put a new prop on I may actually notice a difference, other than "i think its faster, but I can't ride the boat to notice enough"

Footholds really help with learning balance. You get a wider stance, are far back with your weight on the machine, and give leverage for your shins when turning. All great things for a beginner to use, even if they just put their toes in they get that couple more inches of width for stability.


Skifanatic - Enjoy the ski... Ride it as much as you can. You'll know when its time for mods, the first time you catch a wave or boat wake right you'll launch and realize that footholds would be much cooler than a prop at this point.

When a prop comes along at a good price, get it most definately. But I wouldn't be rushing out to buy one for full retail, is what I'm saying...

Enjoy! I know you will.:biggthumpup:
 
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