Octane ...fuel octane that is...blending question

McDog

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I have my motors running 195 compression and dialed in on 50/50 blend of avgas and 93 octane pump. I am contemplating buying a big drum of race gas and possibly saving money by blending more pump gas and less of the more expensive fuel to get the same octane and performance.

Somebody help me out on calculating it out because it gets complicated with MON and RON and lead and oxygen content and all that.

I had thought that [(93 x 3) + (100 x 3)] / 6 = 96.5 octane for 6 gallons

and that [(93 x 5) + (110 x 1)] / 6 = 95.83 octane for 6 gallons


but I'm not sure on what the octane really is and if my equation is correct.


Somebody help me out please.
 

Waternut

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Provided the octane ratings are based on the same scale and mixing different octanes works like that, your math is correct. That's the part I don't know.

An easier method for the math is to use percentages though... At half and half for av gas mix it would be (93*.50)+(100*.50)=96.5. Then 20% and 80% (4 gallons to 1 gallon) for race gas would be (110*.20)+(93*.80)=96.4. Different people think differently but that's easier for me.
 
Provided the octane ratings are based on the same scale and mixing different octanes works like that, your math is correct. That's the part I don't know.

An easier method for the math is to use percentages though... At half and half for av gas mix it would be (93*.50)+(100*.50)=96.5. Then 20% and 80% (4 gallons to 1 gallon) for race gas would be (110*.20)+(93*.80)=96.4. Different people think differently but that's easier for me.


if you follow that equation just mix up 10 gals.
2 of race gas 8 or premium fuel
or you could do 1 race and 4 Premium gas
 

McDog

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Research Octane Number (RON)


The most common type of octane rating worldwide is the Research Octane Number (RON). RON is determined by running the fuel in a test engine
Engine

An engine or motor is a machine designed to convert energy into useful mechanical motion.Motors converting heat energy into motion are referred to as engines, which come in many types. A common type is a heat engine such as an internal combustion engine which typically burns a fuel with air and...

with a variable compression ratio
Compression ratio
The compression ratio of an internal-combustion engine or external combustion engine is a value that represents the ratio of the volume of its combustion chamber from its largest capacity to its smallest capacity...

under controlled conditions, and comparing the results with those for mixtures of iso-octane and n-heptane.

Motor Octane Number (MON)


There is another type of octane rating, called Motor Octane Number (MON), or the aviation lean octane rating, which is a better measure of how the fuel behaves when under load, as it is determined at 900 rpm engine speed, instead of the 600 rpm for RON. MON testing uses a similar test engine to that used in RON testing, but with a preheated fuel mixture, higher engine speed, and variable ignition timing
Ignition system

An ignition system is a system for igniting a fuel-air mixture. Ignition systems are well known in the field of internal combustion engines such as those used in most petrol engines and diesel engines used to power the majority of motor vehicles, but they are also used in many other applications...

to further stress the fuel's knock resistance. Depending on the composition of the fuel, the MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON, however there is no direct link between RON and MON. Normally, fuel specifications require both a minimum RON and a minimum MON.

Anti-Knock Index (AKI)


In most countries, including Australia and all of those in Europe, the "headline" octane rating shown on the pump is the RON, but in Canada, the United States and some other countries, like Brazil, the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI, and often written on pumps as (R+M)/2). It may also sometimes be called the Pump Octane Number (PON).

Difference between RON and AKI


Because of the 8 to 10 point difference noted above, the octane rating shown in the United States is 4 to 5 points lower than the rating shown elsewhere in the world for the same fuel. See the table in the following section for a comparison.

Observed Road Octane Number (RdON)


The final type of octane rating, called Observed Road Octane Number (RdON), is derived from testing gasolines in real world multi-cylinder engines, normally at wide open throttle. It was developed in the 1920s and is still reliable today. The original testing was done in cars on the road but as technology developed the testing was moved to chassis dynamometers with environmental controls to improve consistency.
 
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McDog

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RON MON AKI


"regular" gasoline in Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the US 91–92 82–83 87


 
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McDog

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ExxonMobil AvgasAvgas
Avgas is an aviation fuel used to power piston-engine aircraft. Avgas can be distinguished from mogas , which is the everyday gasoline used in cars and some non-commercial light aircraft...

100
99.5 (min)MON
 

McDog

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Somebody has to know a lot about this. What blend of common race fuel and premium gas is about the same as premium gas and avgas mixed 50/50?
 

Waternut

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I thought everyone in the US used the system of (RON+MON)/2. Maybe the race gas uses a different system but you can find out by going to their site. I wouldn't be scared for you at all if you said you wanted to run your engine on just 93 but that's just me.
 

McDog

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Yep, (RON+MON)/2 is AKI which is what you see at the pump. I can't seem to figure out what number VP uses from their website info.

I probably could run my motor on 93 but I would always be a little scared of WOT.
 
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