Surfriding Getting the most "Throw" out of your Steering

[227]

Getting the most throw out of your steering is a fairly easy mod that most can do themselves. Since most on here ride a Superjet or Superjet based ski then this is how you get the best results.

You must modify both the steering and pump sides to get the max effect.

For the steering side you have to run a turn plate that has an multiple extended connection points and use the one that's furthest out.



If you happen to be running a OEM chin pad you will have to notch the pads connection bolt support. In order to get proper the clearance, I had to notch mine so far it was to the point of breaking off so I made a thin Stainless bracket to reinforce it.

Notched and reinforced OEM pad connection support



On the pump side you must move the steering cable connection point as close to the pump as possible, making sure the steering cable does not rub on the pump housing . The easiest way is to just drill a hole in the steering nozzles connection arm closer to the nozzle. This works but you have to do some major cable adjustments to get your steering straight and so you probably won't get an equal amount of throw on both sides. A better choice is to make a small plate out of aluminum or SS and drill a whole new position for the steering cable. IMO this option is preferred because you basically don't have to do any adjustments to the steering cable ends and you get MAX throw in both directions.





Changing the steering connection points is only half the job. You also have to notch the sides of your steering nozzle so that you can get the additional turning radius you're looking for. I recommend doing this with your pump removed and by taking out just a little material at a time because how you notch the steering nozzle is different on each side due to its irregular shape.

The side opposite the connection arm is a pretty straight forward radius notch.





On the steering cable connection side the proper notch shape looks irregular to the eye so it's fairly easy to mess up.





This Mod has worked really well for me. My steering throw is to the point where if I went any further I would get blow by out the side of the nozzle. It's a pretty easy mod that you can do yourself in a few hrs Good Luck!

 

[shaunsteezy]

pair this with a solas all stainless mag pump and you have a winning surf combo. (hint hint @227 ....)

 

[ph1lthy11y]

Thanks for the sweet pics and the right up on how to do this . this will definitely be my next mod .
P.s this should be moved to tech FAQ section

 

[mthomps]

This is the best mod you will ever do.

Do turn plate first...if you need to drill on the nozzle I highly recommend measuring and drilling the nozzle the same. It will ensure equal throw.

 

[yamanube]

Where the connection point is on the nozzle has nothing to do with equal throw, that is achieved through adjusting the cable ends.

 

[Henry Stephen]

Steering plate mod, or XS-cream (or ice cream) makes the handlebar mount, for max throw. But there's lot to be said about shifting more of your weight into turns.

 

[mthomps]

Where the connection point is on the nozzle has nothing to do with equal throw, that is achieved through adjusting the cable ends.

I don't believe that to be true. If you move it out at the turn plate and leave the nozzle alone one side will move a lot farther than the other. If the distance moved is equal on both ends you hardly have to adjust the cable at all.

 

[Yami-Rider]

Thanks for sharing!

 

[AtomicPunk]

great write up... should be the first thing every superjet owner should do... for FREE.

 

[mthomps]

Yeah, this mod is basically free Awesome.

 

[LMnsr]

I saw a thread once that might be a good addition to this mod.
I'm not sure if this is the case here. But if your nozzle is at full throw to the right (nozzle exit pointing to the right) the left side of the nozzle might create a gap between the pump and the nozzle that may force water out the side.
The post showed how to eliminate that gap by extening the pump exit by .5-1". A small piece of silicone hose (like a car radiator hoses) was clamped on to the pump exit. Im on my phone now so its hard to search for the post. But ill post it when i find it. It had pictures as well

Edit: i'm actually trying to do your mod today to test it out this weekend. I might add the hose to it if there is a gap

 

[yamanube]

I saw a thread once that might be a good addition to this mod.
I'm not sure if this is the case here. But if your nozzle is at full throw to the right (nozzle exit pointing to the right) the left side of the nozzle might create a gap between the pump and the nozzle that may force water out the side.
The post showed how to eliminate that gap by extening the pump exit by .5-1". A small piece of silicone hose (like a car radiator hoses) was clamped on to the pump exit. Im on my phone now so its hard to search for the post. But ill post it when i find it. It had pictures as well

Edit: i'm actually trying to do your mod today to test it out this weekend. I might add the hose to it if there is a gap

I have been thinking about this as well because there can be a slight gap depending on where you put the turn nozzle attachment. Keep us posted.

 

[kswiatk]

I saw a thread once that might be a good addition to this mod.
I'm not sure if this is the case here. But if your nozzle is at full throw to the right (nozzle exit pointing to the right) the left side of the nozzle might create a gap between the pump and the nozzle that may force water out the side.
The post showed how to eliminate that gap by extening the pump exit by .5-1". A small piece of silicone hose (like a car radiator hoses) was clamped on to the pump exit. Im on my phone now so its hard to search for the post. But ill post it when i find it. It had pictures as well

Edit: i'm actually trying to do your mod today to test it out this weekend. I might add the hose to it if there is a gap

Isn't there some company that already made a precut peice of silicone for this? I can't remember if this is true or the company name if so..

 

[LMnsr]

Ok I found the post, but it's not what I said. basically same thing but made for a trim system. But i'm sure what I said or similar would work.
http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?thre...od-for-improved-handling.140248/#post-1521928

 

[LMnsr]

Step one is done. Just needs one more hole then on to the nozzle and chinpad.
Mine is a bit different since in my case my nozzle broke and I used a bit thicker aluminum. So its a way to fix your nozzle if it broke too ha

 

[LMnsr]

I just finished putting it together on the ski, there is a pretty big gap on one side. I will think of a way to fix it tomorrow, if not I will test it out the way it is, then once again when I close the gap to compare the difference.. I will post pics up tomorrow

 

[227]

Just to give everyone an idea, here's some pics of the size of the gaps between the turning nozzle and pump nozzle that I have in my ski. They look pretty large but I am getting next to zero blow by. Remember the steering nozzle is not pressurized like the pump housing, the nozzle just redirects the jet wash so as long as the jet blast just stays within the inside of the nozzle you should be good. If I went any further it would get counterproductive as the jet wash would start to hit the leading edge of the turn nozzle and blow by would start be an issue. This is about the max you can expect from modifying the OEM Set up. I'm guessing I increased my turning radius by at least 20% in each direction which is pretty good for a virtually free mod!

 

[masterblaster]

your getting tons of blow by with that much radius in steering. come up with a way to secure some flexible tabs on the end of the reduction nozzle and youll be surprised how much more quickir air rotations are

 

[LMnsr]

your getting tons of blow by with that much radius in steering. come up with a way to secure some flexible tabs on the end of the reduction nozzle and youll be surprised how much more quickir air rotations are

I did this mod and i have basically the same gaps. I didnt get a chance to close them so I'll test it out as it is tomorrow and close them during the week. I will post how I close them as soon as I figure something out. Next weekend I will test the difference.

I will update you guys during the week

 

[227]

your getting tons of blow by with that much radius in steering. come up with a way to secure some flexible tabs on the end of the reduction nozzle and youll be surprised how much more quickir air rotations are

You'd Think wouldn't you? I certainly did- but when we tested it there's very little. Like I said the steering nozzle isn't pressurized. Think of it like standing to the side of your garden hose. As the water exits the hose it shoot straights ahead, it doesn't make an immediate 90 at the hose end. The pressurized water follows the path of least resistance which is straight out the back, right where you want it.