Super Jet help me decide on a pipe

[lanmine657]

i know it seems like a repeated question but im in market for a new pipe and i want this to be my last purchase so my wife stops giving me the evil eye. i spent alot cash on my boat last year and come to find out the pipe i was running is a turd and was holding me back. im in a pickle between a type 4, type 9 and a b-pipe. im not afraid of the couplers and such of the dry pipes but it seems like to get max power out of one i would need water injection unit which may kill my budjet(stink eye from the wife) and on the other hand i have a b-pipe availible from a friend for a good deal. im just a rec rider jumping wakes, drag racing friends and hitting up a race now and then, what should i do?

 

[MADMAT]

I think the B pipe from a friend is a complete 100% no brainer.

 

[B3IS]

^^^^ grab the B pipe.

 

[MADMAT]

No brainers don't come along very often....run to your friends house!

 

[AtomicPunk]

Option D - New wife (or the most practical, b-pipe)

 

[Vumad]

If the B-pipe wasn't an option, what would be next best? My Sj is getting setup for freeride when my X2 is done (racing), and I need a pipe. I'm not very pleased with the number of B-pipes I see with stuck screws. I ride the salt and I don't want to have to be lubricating my screws and readjusting them every 6 months. I want to set it and forget it, but not have to worry about it becoming rotten.

 

[MADMAT]

You will never ever give 1 rats ass about those screws if you just set them where the majority of us do. Mine could be welded in to place and I would not be able to care less.

IMO!

 

[Vumad]

You will never ever give 1 rats ass about those screws if you just set them where the majority of us do. Mine could be welded in to place and I would not be able to care less.

IMO!

And if you decide to get some porting work done, upgrade to larger than 38mm carbs, decide to go race compression, go big bore, etc. None of those would affect your tuning? I would imagine if the pipe is tunable because every motor is different, it would be important to someone with a stock motor to continue to be able to tune that pipe. No?

 

[lanmine657]

so if i found a type 9 and ran it with no water injection you guys think the b-pipe will still be better?

 

[RMBC Freeride]

Hey man, I met you up at Boyd this summer... thanks for letting me borrow that wrench! Hopefully Chase got it back to you!

Everyone here is pretty much gonna say B-pipe or powerfactor. Dry pipes besides the pfp have a bad rep around here. They are generally considered race pipes and you won't find too many people here that like them. In general dry pipes will always make more power overall than a Bpipe. But most here are looking for just the bottom end "hit" for freestyle, combined with the ease of use that the b pipe is known for. Not top-end.

For your type of riding - you say drag racing and some races... and you say you are OK with the coupler maintenance issues of the dry pipes. Then the dry pipe is the most power you can get. BUT they do tend to have a dead spot on the bottom without water injection. Top end is generally not affected by the water injection. Dry pipes will pull more RPM's period. Especially if you are ported accordingly. It's all about the total package and setup.

PM me and get my number if you want to discuss further. Too much to type... hope this helps a little.
-Neil

 

[just joe]

I agree with Neil. B-pipes are simple. Dry pipes make more power. I had one on my RN with a Riva built freeride motor, TL, and Skat mag. I loved it. Never had a coupler issue (JSS mod with marine exhaust coupler), no plugging (FP water screen to stinger), sounds awesome, looks awesome (polished or painted), pulls hard and doesn't stop. I didn't have water injection, but my prop pitch was a little low so it would rev through the very bottom quickly. Especially if you are freeriding, hitting wakes, etc, you typically aren't off idle. You learn to use the mid-bottom and midrange more.

 

[mthomps]

And if you decide to get some porting work done, upgrade to larger than 38mm carbs, decide to go race compression, go big bore, etc. None of those would affect your tuning? I would imagine if the pipe is tunable because every motor is different, it would be important to someone with a stock motor to continue to be able to tune that pipe. No?

Honestly If you read the manual on factory pipes website the screws are set for what you want NOT what you want out of a specific sized motor.

 

[MADMAT]

And if you are that worried about the screws seizing up (legit concern if you are going to be tuning it for a huge motor I guess??) then just buy a new one and deal with them right away maybe? Neversieze? T handles?

 

[lanmine657]

thanks for all the input guys, i have decided to go with a type 9, b-pipes are no doubt a great pipe but i found out they really arent a good top end pipe, sounds like the type 9 is a top end pipe and will make a ton more power than the b-pipe even without water injection, it just doesnt hit on the low but hits more in the middle and all the way thru the top, so type 9 it is who has one forsale?

 

[MADMAT]

You will no doubt beat your friends in a race. So does your friend still want to sell his B pipe?

 

[motobehrens]

Speedwerx. If you are thinking dry pipe, do some research on the speedwerx dry pipe. There are plenty of threads with good details.

 

[lanmine657]

i knew that was coming, my buddy was tryn help me out with that b-pipe and the price and im sure he knows what its worth, not sure how bad wants to sell it

 

[MADMAT]

Speedwerx. If you are thinking dry pipe, do some research on the speedwerx dry pipe. There are plenty of threads with good details.

Yea I was just gonna say that...since you are going down that road do not rule out a speedwerx dry pipe...it is the coolest pipe I have ever owned....and crazy RPM's....it just didn't fit my riding style/Lake Erie waves...

 

[MADMAT]

Oh and for what its worth I have owned: Type 9, Speedwerx dry, Coughman Lightening, and finally a B pipe....and countless prop configs to try them all out...

 

[lanmine657]

Yea I was just gonna say that...since you are going down that road do not rule out a speedwerx dry pipe...it is the coolest pipe I have ever owned....and crazy RPM's....it just didn't fit my riding style/Lake Erie waves...

we ride small lakes not small oceans(lake erie), hmmmmm you still have that speedworks? just keepn my options open