Blaster Help please ... need opinions

[Sidsol]

OK I am going to try to be thorough


1. Blaster worked fine and one day wouldn’t start
2. No spark and diagnose to be the stator
3. Replaced stator and reassembled the ski
4. Wouldn’t start up and sounded like the bendix gear was sticking
5. I re- adjusted Bendix and it started up and purred and was awesome
6. Tried to start up again and it was binding again
7. I replaced Bendix gear with a band new one not used
8. Now ski doesn’t sound like it is binding but will only turn over a little then the starter spins out.
9. I removed spark plugs and it will turn over like I wish it would with spark plugs in
10. I charged the battery completely and it will not start for about the first 5 secs it sound like it should , then you hear binding , then it spins out.
11. I am about to tear down to the flywheel again tonight but wanted any suggestions.(could it be my starter?)

 

[Matt_E]

Sounds similar to this:
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/89691-turns-over-without-spark-plugs-only.-WTf

 

[Sidsol]

yeah ,, from that read it looks like I need to test my ground. i have a new Bendix .. shiney gold Bendix gear

 

[tom21]

I had this issue in my sj, replaced battery cables with used ones and it was the same, but in a new battery still turned slow like the motor was seizing. replace all 3 battery cables with new and it now turns like the plugs are out.

if you have slow spinning then I would look at cables, starter or a swollen wear ring holding you back.

if it spins fast but wont stay engaged look for wear on the flywheel teeth, the motor will usually come to rest in the same spot/s and over time it will wear the teeth down and round the edges to the point where when the bendix comes around to that spot it will slip off. in that case you need a flywheel.

 

[Sidsol]

It will spin for like 3-5 sec like it will start ,,, then Bind up ,,, then spins... it is so weird. Flywheel teeth are good ... i mean the only thing it could be is the starter now I figure.... please more opinion because all will be down tonight.

 

[NVJAY775]

I snapped a starter bolt that binded the starter. Lots of stuff to check is fun.

 

[Sidsol]

Yeah i went ahead and got a new Starter .....I am tired with making things work,,, just going to replace everything ..lol... this is last thing I could replace . Ill let you all know.

 

[Waveblaster785]

Is the spring in the flywheel cover? The washer? Believe it or not having that spring not holding enough pressure on the bendix makes a difference.

 

[Sidsol]

Yeah I have the spring.. not sure about a washer? Last night I was tapping on the starter and it it seem to do much better than went back to what it was doing. It is why i bought a starter.

 

[Matt_E]

There's two washers - one on both ends of the spring.

 

[Sidsol]

I see the exposed spring ,,, it is locked inside the socket ... should I not be able to see this?

 

[CJ407]

Mine did this and it was the plugs for the kill switch...pulled them out spit in it and plugged and unplugged a few time and works perfect

 

[Sidsol]

Stater replaced ,, sounded alittle better ... Still not a go. I stop dealing with this now since my flywheel is taking abeating. I did come up with new information.

1. Turns over fine with no plugs
2. Turns over fine when plugs are in but no wires
3. Binds are is awful with plugs on
4. I reverses the wires sounded better and even started up once but was sputtering..


is this a timing thing or did I cross a wire in the ebox?

 

[Matt_E]

I see the exposed spring ,,, it is locked inside the socket ... should I not be able to see this?

Does it have a washer on top of it?

Also, you said you "readjusted" the bendix. What exactly did you do? The bendix needs no adjusting.
Have you inspected or replaced your ground cable, and both positive cables?

 

[Sidsol]

Readusted means I put the washer in. It doesn't have trouble turning over until Spark is applied . When I reverse the spark plug cabled I manage to get it started once but had to work at it . Even when it ran is sounded boggy. At this point I am not sure if I may have something reversed in the ebox , do I have the stator in wrong, or if I just need to play with the timing . I have no clue at this point.

 

[Matt_E]

It doesn't matter one bit which spark plug wire is on which plug. They both fire at the same time.
Once "spark is applied", you have combustion pressure counter-acting the starter, that's why it gets harder to turn over.
There really isn't a way to reverse anything in the ebox and still get get spark & cranking.
As for timing: Make sure the timing marks on the stator line up properly with the mark on the crank case. There are three marks on the stator, one on the cases.
You want the case mark to line up with the center mark on the stator for stock timing.

You need to check these three cables:
1. Ground cable from battery to starter.
2. Red cable from battery to ebox.
3. Red cable from ebox to starter.

 

[Sidsol]

I just put a new starter in it and checked those wires .. I am going to open up the ebox tonight and see.. I do not see any mark though with the stator ... do you know of anywhere online there may be a picture of what to look for?

 

[Matt_E]

I don't have a picture. The marks on the stator are directly at the top mounting slot (where you put the top mounting bolt to the cases).
The case mark is directly above that on the cases. It's very hard to miss once you look in that area.

How did you check those wires? Sorry I keep bugging you about this, but the symptoms you are describing (especially after replacing the starter) sound exactly like bad power/ground cables. They can be oxidized inside and you wouldn't see it from the outside.
While starting, measure the voltage drop across each cable.
Or just replace those cables one by one and see if it helps.

 

[Sidsol]

No no ,, keep bugging me , I am alone doing this so I get alot of my information from forums and working with people I purchase items with.

I looked at the ground and power cable of of the starter .. They where very clean and not rusted . This is a very clean blaster btw.

The sound it makes when it starts sounds like the bendix is binding on the flywheel but its not . After putting the new starter on last night I thought it was the ski missfireing and appling pressure back on the bendix or something like that . Of course that is from a novice trying to figure out a wierd issue.

again , bendix,starter,flywheel and stator is all new. The ski was awesome till the Stator went out with no spark..

 

[Matt_E]

I need some clarification.
When you say "binding"...do you mean the starter spins, the engine turns over, and then stops turning over?