Freestyle Help the Newb

[wydopen]

I'd really like one best suited for freestyle and back flips.
Thanks!

Richard

before you get carried away you need to consider one thing..if you build a ski to do flatwater backflips it wont be very good for anything else...its kinda like in motocross...you have freestylers that can do backflips but they can barley negotiate the berm that leads up to their ramp...or goons at the track that think they are fast cause they can twist a throttle on their 450s on the straitaways but have zero corner speed...

if i was you id get a superjet and learn some fundamentals of riding a ski before you worry about doing backflips...if u have a superjet you can do most everything on it and it will teach you how to ride/work on a ski before u drop 20k on a ski that sucks to ride over planing speed...

if u do decide to build a circus boat down the road your gonna need a superjet anyways to take all the hardware/parts out of..

 

[IS0LD0UT]

circus boat

Nice.

 

[swanny]

HOAGIES:smokin:

 

[prettyricky218]

Thanks for all the advice!! Why don't freestylers like the square nose? I'm curious what the difference is? The center of gravity or placement of intake grate?? And what the heck is 62t 61 after the carb mean? what is all that?

 

[FLATWATER SXR]

i own a SN and love it,But a dasa 865 would make it flip with a mag pump ect...This stuff gets expensive!!! SN and RN hulls are the same on the bottom,RN are better some say,Some like the SN as i do,I personally love my SN,and id love to keep it...But my SXR kills it all over the lake....PM me if youd like to know info on my SN im selling it,Way cheaper than 3k also haha!

 

[ChrisFiore15]

Your best bet- ORder up a BOB from the ski clinic...
4800 to your door or so
Then buy a nice modded cheap SN(2000-3000 for one with a B pipe, higher comp head, MSD enhancer or similar, intake scoop grate, etc etc)
a buddy of mine picked one up modded head to toe for 1650 i believe with B pipe, head, and everything else you can think of...
Take ALL The parts out of that and install the parts on a BOB...
If its a 650 SJ, that would be even better, then you should get it for like 1500 with the mods listed above...but you will need a new head, 650 vs 701 head is different...
I have a nice NEW ported 718 motor, that you should be able to get the BOB to flip with(If you buy a SN SJ with a 701, then just have that motor ported, If you buy one with a 650 motor, then this 718 would be a good route for you to go)

And that should get you a real nice ride!! The G2 rides EXCELLENTLY as ive been told (About to experience it myself soon! =D)

 

[Schmidty721]

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/boa/2889782269.html

Here you go man. Nice, Minty stock Superjet with trailer and cover.

Don't listen to ^^^ this guy. Based on the questions you are asking you are not ready for an after market hull build. There is just too much frustration, time, tinkering, tuning, riding for 30 min, tuning again, etc to get a complete ground up ski build dialed in. Get a ski that is ready to ride and ride it.

A stockish superjet with a few mods, big boat wake, and large balls can be flipped. Hook up with some of the local boys for a double up between two 35+' cruisers and you'll have all you can handle just to hang on to the damn ski.

 

[Tmart]

x2 on what Schmidty721 said. Get a stockish 96+ superjet and ride on. Nothing beats a reliable ski when you're just wanting to have fun.

 

[ChrisFiore15]

I was simply saying what was the cheapest easiest way to go about getting yourself a FWBF ski.
Not really speaking on the fact of the OP Riding abilities or how deep his pockets were or what his mechanical levels are, because, speaking on my own behalf, I do NOT know this person at all other then what he posted, maybe he is mechanically inclined.. it isnt very hard at all the XFER over everything from a SJ into a BOB hull...

Anyways, as I said, simply posting what the most effective route is to an aftermarket hull. Not weather he needs it or not, or if he can ride it or not, thats not my place to decide.

 

[hirschblazin]

Just like everyone else is saying, pick up a nice square/round nose SJ with limited mods and learn from there. A nice RN is hard to come by up here, I would look into that stocker with trailer. If you have any other questions Im a local guy and can always help out.

Andy

 

[prettyricky218]

So I've done some research and can see maybe buying a haul and taking my time and building my dream machine would be the way to go. the B.O.B. hulls look nice but the problem I'm running into is I can't find any for sale that are used. Can a 701 with an amature really back flip with that engine and do barrel rolls?

 

[JETSKIHORDER18]

You really need to listen to what wydopen and Schmidty721 are saying. Learn the fundamentals of riding a stand up first with a SJ, then once you can actually ride, and you have learned set up wakes, rolls, and maybe tried some flips off a boat wake, and your ready to go bigger then look into an AM hull, and then swap your parts into the hull. This way you would have ridden the ski for quite some time, and you know it works and its tuned then there is nothing really to do other than swap parts.

 

[FLATWATER SXR]

You really need to listen to what wydopen and Schmidty721 are saying. Learn the fundamentals of riding a stand up first with a SJ, then once you can actually ride, and you have learned set up wakes, rolls, and maybe tried some flips off a boat wake, and your ready to go bigger then look into an AM hull, and then swap your parts into the hull. This way you would have ridden the ski for quite some time, and you know it works and its tuned then there is nothing really to do other than swap parts.

Best advice,Revised!

 

[Buckwild12]

Everyone when first starting out wants to flip, however if your riding skills aren't there you are going to hurt yourself or get discouraged. There is a progression that nearly all riders go through. You will have fun with the challenge of new things that you can start to do as you learn, but riding a stand up is miles away from riding a couch.

 

[djraider700]

you have much to learn grasshoppa!

 

[FLATWATER SXR]

you have much to learn grasshoppa!

uhhhhhhhh ya id say so! ice in the motor! OMFG i ride in 115 degree weather and have NO problems,And you worried about heat n MN?

 

[Kny21]

Ice is an insider secret, do not mention such things on an open forum......


Same can be said for freestyle sponges and fuel tank foam.

 

[piratelife]

Here it goes again!!!...The title of the thread is "help the newb"...right???

 

[Matt_E]

Wow! 80 Degrees here in MN and mid March. I'm really starting to get pumped about getting a ski. I found a 2000 750 Kawi, but everyone is saying Yamaha for the freestyle. I've always been a Yamaha guy. In motocross I found Honda to be bullet proof. Suzuki to be fast but garbage. And Yamaha to be the best mix of the 2. Anyways, I have some new questions and some enlightening information since all the posts are revolving around my skill level and how deep my pockets are and who the heck I am because I"m new to the site yada yada yada.
Well, I'm Richard. I've raced motocross, done freestyle motocross, I wake board, snow board, kite board, I'm just your all around athlete but like the X games type stuff. I'm 29 years old and don't have deep pockets. My decision to buy an airplane has tremendously impacted my budget. anyone want to rent a Piper Super cub? I feel that I hold the ability and agility to be good on a stand up. I had a couple beaters growing up but nothing I could get crazy on. Financially I'm looking at buying used. The problem is, it's hard to find used. I did see a B.O.B. hull for sale the other day though.
OK... so I have a few questions about skis.
In motocross we always carried spare parts for the pieces we knew were susceptible to wear and tear and breaking in a hard landing or wreck. What would those parts be on a ski? What do people carry with them?
And as I was day dreaming about stand ups I was thinking about how darn hot it's gotta be in the engine compartment. I hear guys are running bilge pumps, but has anyone thought of filling the engine bay up with ice?

Thanks!

Richard

Hey Richard, welcome to the forum. I don't think there's any need to cool the engine compartment with ice. Cooling water is single pass and usually not over 130 degrees hot. The hull is constantly in contact with water and the bilge gets water in it just from riding.

 

[FearMyWrX]

DAMNIT MATT! You tell me this after I just ordered an industrial ice machine!