Help the tall guy's ski.

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msanders84

Location
Maryland
Hello,

I am new to this forum and wanted some advice from you all. I am a tall rider, about 6'5" and weigh about 230 give or take. I am having a hard time stabilizing the ski on turns because I am so tall. It either wants to skid out or tip over.

Here is the info for my ski:

2000 super jet. RRP handlepole and shortened steering- 4"s shorter than stock
Pro tec head
MSD enhancer
R&D rideplate. The Nic Rius ride plate.
worx scoop grate
factory b pipe.. wet

Not sure about the impeller.

I have talked to Wamilton and the guys at blowsion as well as a friend who used to be a pro rider and I have had 3 different solutions given. Blowsion says try some sponsons to stabilize the ski.. Wamilton says no to the sponsons because the ski will "float" more and I need to shorten the ride plate so that it will hook up to the water better.

Let me know.

Thanks
 
TJLSuperJet

TJLSuperJet

Location
College Station
sounds to me like a pretty good set up. I would just keep practicing before i spent more money. There is a learners curve here and you have to get to know the ski... here is my advice. on a left turn, put you weight to left side. right turn, right side. you have to lean a little and stay on the throttle. as soon as you let off the throttle, you loose control of the turn..... That is a nice setup you have going though, and a stock ride plate will slip out of a turn easier. so IMO i dont think thats it. Its a delicate balance of throttle, lean, and turn, but once you get it down, youll love the ski. How much have you rode in the past? Im guessing this is your first ski???:scratchchin:
 
yamaslut

yamaslut

kill it
Location
Daytona Beach, Florida
just keep riding... I'm 6-3 at 200lbs and no issues.. just keep working on it...


msanders84 said:
Hello,

I am new to this forum and wanted some advice from you all. I am a tall rider, about 6'5" and weigh about 230 give or take. I am having a hard time stabilizing the ski on turns because I am so tall. It either wants to skid out or tip over.

Here is the info for my ski:

2000 super jet. RRP handlepole and shortened steering- 4"s shorter than stock
Pro tec head
MSD enhancer
R&D rideplate. The Nic Rius ride plate.
worx scoop grate
factory b pipe.. wet

Not sure about the impeller.

I have talked to Wamilton and the guys at blowsion as well as a friend who used to be a pro rider and I have had 3 different solutions given. Blowsion says try some sponsons to stabilize the ski.. Wamilton says no to the sponsons because the ski will "float" more and I need to shorten the ride plate so that it will hook up to the water better.

Let me know.

Thanks
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Penken

Penken

whoomp there it is!
Location
Umeå, Sweden
i dont get the shorter plate idea?
if your heavier than the avreage rider you should get the tail to sink more with the same lengt plate as an avreage rider.
i think sponsons/tubbies would help. they give the ski more grip.
with a sertain amount of grip you can only lean as far till you slide out. lighter mean you can lean more. gain grip and you can lean more.
im no expert at this stuff. and no expert at riding. not an expert at anything by that matter. just thinking.
i´m 6'2" and wheigh 220.
 
SJBrit

SJBrit

Extraordinary Alien
Location
Bradenton, FL
msanders84 said:
I am having a hard time stabilizing the ski on turns because I am so tall. It either wants to skid out or tip over.
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That's a great summary of superjet handling! I felt exactly the same when learning and I am 5'9". Superjets are not the best turning skis at all - you need a Kawasaki for that. However, you quickly develop the "superjet turn" technique, and once you have that under your belt you don't even notice (apart from the odd spin-out every now and then). I would definitely just head out and ride in slow circles and figure-8's, building up confidence and skill.
 
fastgtfairlane

fastgtfairlane

Location
Charlotte, NC
how many times have you ridden your ski? I just bought a 91 550, talk about unstable lol. I am 6ft and 207lbs but learning to turn my ski. i noticed that staggering my legs and leaning back and into the turn and let off the gas a lil bit then get back into it as you begin to turn works the best. I am new as well but have ridden about 4 times now. keep riding you will get it.
 
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msanders84

Location
Maryland
I had a square nose when I was younger that I rode a lot. However, I grew a good bit and also filled out in the past several years and since then haven't ridden as much. To answer the question I have ridden a lot.

I think I need to further clarify. I can do simple slower turns... 20-30 miles per hour and all, but its the fast racing style turns with leg drags and all around buoys that I cant get down.

Side note: I talked to rick roy and he says that he has a longer ride plate that may help.

Also EME enterprises does not answer their phone nor do they call back?

KEEP THE ADVICE COMING.
 
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msanders84

Location
Maryland
SJBrit said:
That's good clarification. Tubbies and a longer ride plate will definitely help you there. Keep in mind that you are not riding a ski which is designed to do that....
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How is a superjet not designed to race?? I know a guy who used to race them in a pro class and he can still leg drag and run buoys?

Elaborate on the type of ride plate. I have this one now, but I think mine is an older model: http://www.xbjracing.com/pro/jetski/SuperJet_files/122-70102.jpg

and which sponsons? How will they help with turns?
 
SJBrit

SJBrit

Extraordinary Alien
Location
Bradenton, FL
Well, OK - "Superjets have never been very good at that". In stock form the SJ hull just isn't a great turning hull: that's why racing is dominated by Kawasaki's and Hydrospaces these days. Sure people are out there on SJs but the reaction tends to be "wow - look at that guy on an SJ! and he's almost keeping up!!" The SJ hull (pre 08) just doesn't carve well and the stock ride plate lets the back spin out. That's a GREAT setup for freestyle, which is my SJs dominate freestyle.

As for sponsons my only experience is with Blowsion tubbies. They change the shape of the hull and the chine to make it bite much better on turns. So, instead of hitting a turn and wondering why you are still going in the same direction, the ski will actually bite in and carve a turn much more like an SXR hull. In fact, I've ridden an SJ for so long that I fall off every time I try to turn an SXR because it actually turns and I'm not ready for it!! Kind of embarrassing....

Anyway, point is that you are experiencing a common limitation of the Superjet and there are aftermarket parts that make a huge difference. An SJ with tubbies is a whole different beast. As for ride plates, I have no experience there, although I have observed that most people running buoys use a much longer than stock rideplate.
 
kiddioo

kiddioo

Location
Urbanna, VA
msanders84 said:
How is a superjet not designed to race?? I know a guy who used to race them in a pro class and he can still leg drag and run buoys?
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So why don't you ask him how to do it?

I don't know a thing about running buoys but I doubt changing the ride plate will magically make you be able to do what you want.
 
ger87410

ger87410

How did I get here?
Location
Fort Worth
Changed the intake grate from a westcoast to a worx and now I actually turn.

Stock 91 ski with stock ride plate.

Before I'd always slide out on turns but not necessarily fall off, and now it sinks down into the turns. I put the grate on to fix a holeshot issue and ended up fixing the turning issue too.
 
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