How many skis have been completly sank? How many have been found?

[snowxr]

Harsh indeed. At some point we all need to hold ourselves accountable for our own actions.

 

[dirtnut99]

We lost a Blowsion SXR at the Grayland Open last year.. The owner, Ryan, got lucky that it washed back up on the beach about a half a mile north of the comp about an hr later and someone just happened to see the rear corner bobbing.. It was an ALL black hull which made it worse... He had the current/surf working on his side so he got it back... He wasn't using hood straps and lost his hood.. I feel for ya Chik... I redid my ski over the winter and dumped the stock hood latch and put straps on.. If I lose my ski I am DONE......... Po foke can't afford to build multiple skis.. hahaha

 

[waterfreak]

So, why weren't you crying for a new hull for the last 3 years? Now you lose it, and you want it replaced?!? Here's a solution. Buy another hull, and Steve will paint it.

well spoken! I really don't mind helping people out with lame situations but when this approach it used!...count me out!

 

[RoyalFlush@PCB]

Harsh indeed. At some point we all need to hold ourselves accountable for our own actions.

Does Steve need to be held accountable for his action (or lack thereof) in building a hull that can withstand being submerged?

Does Steve need to be accountable for the gel coat situation?

Does Steve need to be held accountable for my hull sinking?

Does Steve need to be accountable for not installing drain plugs on my ski?

Does Steve need to be held accountable for not advising customers that in order for his products not to sink that they need additional foam in the nose because the gunwhale foam is not adaquate?

Steve keeps thanking you for your input in this thread and the majority of the posts seem to be on my side.

Where's Saki when you need him. He's one of the best WCF bashers out there.

Steve, again----you act as if you'd be willing to help if I hadn't handled the situation this way. Have you tried to contact me in the last week since this happened. I KNOW you have my number---it hasn't changed. I'd be glad to retract my comments and give you the praise you feel you deserve if you'd at least make some attempt to rectify the situation, but I don't think your bloated ego will allow that. :shrug:

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Since I am in business for myself and have been for over twelve years, I will speak up here. When you fawk up a customers ski you do whatever you can to make it right, excuses and halfassed lame attempts don't cut it. The attitude of the customer is usually directly related to the service he receives, give a customer bad service he is going to have a ty attitude, you can damn well bank on that one, treat a customer right and he will tell every one of his friends where to take their ski to get it fixed. Do a customer wrong and he will tell anyone that will listen where not to take their ski. Claiming that a customers attitude is getting in the way of fixing their ski is a cop out, its BS and those here with half a brain know it.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Since I am in business for myself and have been for over twelve years, I will speak up here. When you fawk up a customers ski you do whatever you can to make it right, excuses and halfassed lame attempts don't cut it. The attitude of the customer is usually directly related to the service he receives, give a customer bad service he is going to have a ty attitude, you can damn well bank on that one, treat a customer right and he will tell every one of his friends where to take their ski to get it fixed. Do a customer wrong and he will tell anyone that will listen where not to take their ski. Claiming that a customers attitude is getting in the way of fixing their ski is a cop out, its BS and those here with half a brain know it.

Bingo...........

I think Chick might have been somewhat satisfied had Steve just said "dude, I am really sorry. If you decide to get another hull I will give you a deal or a deal on a hood kit if you just go with an OEM hull.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

The bottom line here is is that there was a point that the problems on this ski could have been repaired, an unhappy customer could have been made into a happy one and he would have probably told everyone that the ski builder was a stand up guy, that is all lost now, there is no chance to fix the problems this ski had, I can see where an argument could be made that the problems with the ski led to its demise,this is a loss for everyone involved , both the buyer and builder.

 

[waterfreak]

Bingo...........

I think Chick might have been somewhat satisfied had Steve just said "dude, I am really sorry. If you decide to get another hull I will give you a deal or a deal on a hood kit if you just go with an OEM hull.

Now that's funny right there because I did tell Chick ,when he called last Monday , that I was sorry that he had lost his ski... but I didn't know that he was asking for a discount on a new hull or parts!...now that would of been another story!

 

[waterfreak]

The bottom line here is is that there was a point that the problems on this ski could have been repaired, an unhappy customer could have been made into a happy one and he would have probably told everyone that the ski builder was a stand up guy, that is all lost now, there is no chance to fix the problems this ski had, I can see where an argument could be made that the problems with the ski led to its demise,this is a loss for everyone involved , both the buyer and builder.

Interesting! I too am in the business of jet ski repairs and I can tell you that I have the same theory as you do Terry!...but as you and I know, when customers become unreasonable...then what do you do? bend over backwards and take it up the waz hoo!! or say "look, I try to do this for you and it is not enough! , sorry , but i can't help you anymore.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Now that's funny right there because I did tell Chick ,when he called last Monday , that I was sorry that he had lost his ski... but I didn't know that he was asking for a discount on a new hull or parts!...now that would of been another story!

Actually, I am the one that just mentioned a new hull or parts. Just a hypothetical comment. I cannot speak for Chick.

 

[waterfreak]

Actually, I am the one that just mentioned a new hull or parts. Just a hypothetical comment. I cannot speak for Chick.

but you have already in the last few post! If he had called and said" hey, can you hook me up on a new hull because of my lost, then I would of gladly done so...but instead, his idea of getting me to do something about it was to go out of his way and pay to get a custom waterlogged factory sticker on his hood...WTF kinda childish crap is that??

 

[Cliff]

if i had as much money in this ski as chic does, i would be pissy too. ive seen this ski twice, both times it wouldnt half ass run at best and the gelcoat was hideous. somebody should have stood behind that poor excuse for a competition ski

 

[GIL]

Steve, step back and take a breath for a moment and then put Chik's shoes on, now sleep on it and see how you feel in the AM.
Chik, step back and take a breath for a moment and then put Steve's shoes on, now sleep on it and see how you feel in the AM.

 

[Cliff]

both of them would have a sore azz so they might as well kiss and make up

 

[TB]

..but instead, his idea of getting me to do something about it was to go out of his way and pay to get a custom waterlogged factory sticker on his hood...WTF kinda childish crap is that??

i've stayed out of this just cause i really have had nothing constructive to say on the situation other than i feel for chicks loss, he is a great guy and has helped me out more than i'm sure he's realized..i never did hang with him much when i lived down in pc and i'm sorry i didn't get to know him better.....but that sticker was funny $h*t right there....i don't care who you are it was funny..well maybe not for steve..but for everyone else it's hilarious......but if i did business in jetski hulls and parts manufacturing i would have driven up to chick with the supplies, cut the tray out and sealed it up and refoamed it on my own dime...just to make sure my customer was satisfied...small business owners always need to go the extra mile for there customers or provide a top notch product to begin with.

 

[GIL]

I have wanted to go waaaay out on a limb all day and have not until now...........

Let's think back to the Pete Rant thread for a moment............

Now that we have done that, we all thought it but never said it out loud, had a certain PWC business just said 'hey Pete, you are right and I am sorry' (wether Pete was right or not), the final outcome would have been much different for all parties concerned!!!

 

[sxr891]

Stock hulls have nose foam, so it's pretty reasonable to think that you would be able to install it in your own WCF hull, along with all the other RN parts used to make it run. You obviously know that your hull (along with nearly every RN hull) takes on water, yet you didn't do anything to seal it up.

I sank my superjet and it has no nose foam and a WCF hood and it still stayed with the tail above water.

 

[waterfreak]

I have wanted to go waaaay out on a limb all day and have not until now...........

Let's think back to the Pete Rant thread for a moment............

Now that we have done that, we all thought it but never said it out loud, had a certain PWC business just said 'hey Pete, you are right and I am sorry' (wether Pete was right or not), the final outcome would have been much different for all parties concerned!!!

that would be great if we all lived in the "perfect world" where everyone admits to their mistakes when their wrong (just ask Obama!)

Hell, I'm just waiting for BP to tell us all that they are sorry for f-----cking up the gulf and all of the surrounding wildlife and also that they will be giving us free gas for the next 10 years to make up for it

 

[restosud]

:grouphug:
dang,i was missing the drama queens on here.
good to see them back.:naughty:

 

[GUMP]

So, what's your point? Are you saying that your ski sank because of something Steve did? You think someone owes you a new ski? That's what insurance is for.

Stock hulls have nose foam, so it's pretty reasonable to think that you would be able to install it in your own WCF hull, along with all the other RN parts used to make it run. You obviously know that your hull (along with nearly every RN hull) takes on water, yet you didn't do anything to seal it up. I don't care how well anyone seals their bondline or bulkhead, because the beating these hulls take will eventually break the seal, and water will get in.

My carbon hull sank and I was a man, tied myself to it with the limiter rope. Guess what, I'm still riding it. If I'd lost it there would only be myself to blame.

I sunk MY wammer 1,23225,3364164 times
one of them on a bad hurricane that took me and friends ~ 40min to hook up and take to the beach.
took apart after not too long, was dry as new.