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- Charlotte, NC
SV1 I think.
How many swim noodles?
- Thread starter tor*p*do
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SV1 I think.
- Location
- Red Bluff CA
Proper commone sense while riding goes a long way. I've rode the sac river for years with skis that have scuppers and no bilge pumps. Only time I sink.skis is when I want to.
Someone did axtual tech on the pool noodles and showed they basically do nothing. Just drop a ton of empty water bottles in your hull and put the hood on. Same ghetto crap for the same tiny peace of mind.
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Someone did axtual tech on the pool noodles and showed they basically do nothing. Just drop a ton of empty water bottles in your hull and put the hood on. Same ghetto crap for the same tiny peace of mind.
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- Location
- Charlotte, NC
Engine shut off and gave one sputter while trying to restart then just kept spinning over. Once the nose went down it was over. It's a SV pro and allegedly has foam in the tray but also has tray drains.
- Location
- South Florida
Did the buzzard hack your account?
- Location
- Red Bluff CA
Straight up. It boils down to ommon sense. And laziness. If something fell off, you let it happen. If something broke. It gave you notice. If you didn't spot a place while riding that you can safely get your ski to. Your bad. If you ride middle of lakes. Your bad. I ride more than anyone I know. It takes so much water to sink a superjet. Or rickter.
Planes fly in the sky and rarely crash. Crazy how a simple jet ski can't be made to not sink. Let's just stuff a bunch of barely buoyant crap inside the hull. Ok
The tech on pool noodles is put there. My spoon doesn't work for others. I've sunk many skis
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Planes fly in the sky and rarely crash. Crazy how a simple jet ski can't be made to not sink. Let's just stuff a bunch of barely buoyant crap inside the hull. Ok
The tech on pool noodles is put there. My spoon doesn't work for others. I've sunk many skis
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Ducky
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- Charlotte, NC
That is definitely a viewpoint of Extreme Ownership and I can agree. Even the owner of the ski that sunk agrees lol. But poop does happen. Planes dont often crash, but flipping and rolling jetskis is like one crash after another so you cant expect that something wont happen sometime. But being prepared helps.
- Location
- Red Bluff CA
Rolling a ski over is a scenario that is going to happen. Be prepared. Or not. Your choice. Riding surf is the only exception to any of this. And pool noodles ain't saving your ski in surf. Not any surf worth riding.
It's just annoying seeing people pushing ideas that don't work. Invest the energy into something that will. Or just shut up about it. Don't continue having people do stupid crap just cause you do.
The skis that people worry about sinking, are modified. If your going to be modifying things, you better do it right. Check the carnage section of this site. 80 percent of the damage and stuff that happens is user error. It's not catastrophic failures that happen out of nowhere. The human is almost always the problem. With everything in life
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It's just annoying seeing people pushing ideas that don't work. Invest the energy into something that will. Or just shut up about it. Don't continue having people do stupid crap just cause you do.
The skis that people worry about sinking, are modified. If your going to be modifying things, you better do it right. Check the carnage section of this site. 80 percent of the damage and stuff that happens is user error. It's not catastrophic failures that happen out of nowhere. The human is almost always the problem. With everything in life
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I am new to the a.m. ski party. I have been known to put my SN on a mooring in the pond for a week at a stretch .
Rethinking SOPs, not a huge fan of the dual scuppers and no air tube drops on hood. If ski rolls over, scuppers vent air and down she goes.
I was inquiring if additional flotation is helpful.
Still can't find that FAQ.
Rethinking SOPs, not a huge fan of the dual scuppers and no air tube drops on hood. If ski rolls over, scuppers vent air and down she goes.
I was inquiring if additional flotation is helpful.
Still can't find that FAQ.
- Location
- Illinois
Simple math should help, just gotta know what numbers your after.
1 cubic foot of air will suspend approximately 60lbs in water. (I think it's actually around 62ft at sea level). Subtract the weight of the foam that makes up that 1 cubic foot from that 60lbs, and that's how buoyant that 1cf will be.
- Location
- Coeur D' Alene, ID
In all honesty, the only thing that gives me peace of mind while riding is insurance. PMI your ski before each ride. One of the float/retreiver things people have sold off and on is a good idea too imo. If you're riding a lake, riding with a gps watch wouldnt hurt so you could easily pinpoint the sinking location for divers. But if you're riding a river/surf won't do you much good.
- Location
- Coeur D' Alene, ID
Someone tried that, didnt take off due to concern over the sensor triggering on a sub. Not sure anyone actually tested it though.
- Location
- South Florida
It's also really annoying to hear someone taking an arrogant, condescending attitude about something they think they know all about when they dont and insult others who have an opposing opinion. You can belittle everyone all you want but it wont change the physics. Bouyancy is all about water displacement as stated by others in this thread. Will it take a stupid amount of noodles to float 250 pounds of lead weight?......yes. Will it take the same amount to make up for a ski with an open tray and no foam?.....maybe. Will it take a stupid amount of noodles to float a ski that already has a tray full of foam?......no. Every ski isn't the same.
- Location
- South Florida
I'll sink my new edge hull in the pool when it shows and fill it with lead and pool noodles and post up the results.
Quinc
Buy a Superjet
- Location
- California
There is a thread on here somewhere where the guy put in an old junker engine and sunk his ski to figure out how much foam needed.
- Location
- Red Bluff CA
Thats all relative. Thin skin bruises easily. The bottom line is pool noodles aren't going to save your ski. If we are talking peace of mind and doing whatever bs necessary to ride with no fear at all. Buy a sit-down and have it follow you. Like the pros do. Otherwise learn to wrench and from your mistakes and you don't have to worry about stupid stuff happening to you. Developing skills that keep you on the water instead of constantly wrenching or tweaking on stuff, is the key to progression. And learning real things that actually work.
How about when you see people that talk about pool noodles, wearing skimp life vests. Lol. Like they always do. But you know. Priorities
Inflate your tray with helium. Weld the pole tube up and Schrader them and do the same. Eat alot of beans before your ride. Every little bit helps
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How about when you see people that talk about pool noodles, wearing skimp life vests. Lol. Like they always do. But you know. Priorities
Inflate your tray with helium. Weld the pole tube up and Schrader them and do the same. Eat alot of beans before your ride. Every little bit helps
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- Location
- South Florida
What are you even talking about? Everyone who puts some pool noodles in their skis wears skimp life vests and doesnt know how to wrench to keep their skis on the water? That's a weird and specific stereotyping for sure.
- Location
- Goodwood, ON
I was planning on doing the sink test on my new BAM in my pool once I open it. Was thinking I'd use a 701 and block off the intake. Even if water gets in through the pipe, it won't hurt a fogged engine all that much. I'd have it cleared out and running again within a few minutes.
I'd like to find a small air bladder I can put in the nose. I think that would be much more effective than pool noodles, but for now I have the noodles jammed in there. I also have a small buoyant orange rope under my pole, held on with an elastic. It's similar to paracord but a slightly lighter. If the noodles buy me 30 seconds before the ski sinks, I can rip the rope away and it'll be long enough to reach the surface anywhere in my lake. I doubt it would be strong enough to pull the ski up, but I would at least be able to locate it. Where I usually ride is only 15-20 feet, so I'd get the boat, dive down, tie a strong rope to the ski and pull it out.
I guess running a larger fuel tank, half full is somewhat of a safety measure. That could easily add 10kg of buoyancy.
I'd like to find a small air bladder I can put in the nose. I think that would be much more effective than pool noodles, but for now I have the noodles jammed in there. I also have a small buoyant orange rope under my pole, held on with an elastic. It's similar to paracord but a slightly lighter. If the noodles buy me 30 seconds before the ski sinks, I can rip the rope away and it'll be long enough to reach the surface anywhere in my lake. I doubt it would be strong enough to pull the ski up, but I would at least be able to locate it. Where I usually ride is only 15-20 feet, so I'd get the boat, dive down, tie a strong rope to the ski and pull it out.
I guess running a larger fuel tank, half full is somewhat of a safety measure. That could easily add 10kg of buoyancy.
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- AZ
The answer is: all of them.