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ger87410

How did I get here?
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Fort Worth
Awesome video, DJ!

EDIT: Try encoding the video in pinnacle and reducing the screen size to 320x240 and see what the file size is then.
 
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rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
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Portland, OR
I slapped it upside the head a few times and put it on Youtube.
Youtube

Not as good as what I put up on my site but not bad for Youtube. The splashy water scenes crap out but the rest is fairly survivable. It's all about how it's processed.
 

djkorn1

kidkornfilms
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Cleveland Ohio
I am in the process of flv... I'll let you know how that works out.

I have it on youtube too. Neither or them look that good at all. I would like to get a good version online somewhere.
 

rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
Location
Portland, OR
I replaced the smaller video with the big one he sent. Much better:
Big video
It's so big you might want to hit play then pause it until the progress bar gets like a third of the way across. Otherwise it might have to re-buffer a few times.

That's why I don't turn my videos up past a bitrate of 2000 even though the quality is better. It's important to have a smooth viewing experience too. Just for reference a DVD you would buy at the store is around a bitrate of 5700.
 

rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
Location
Portland, OR
Now that the excellent quality video is up it's time to go back and cover some other stuff.

Windows movie maker is installed when you install XP service pack 2. If he is ghetto, has had it installed a long time and is not doing updates because he is ghetto he might not have movie maker.

If Pinnacle is working for him what the heck. Edit, save as AVI and encode to FLV. Next he can get some web space and use FLV player:
FLV player
on the web site to play it.

All I did with his FLV video to put it on my site was:
1. Make a folder on my web site.

2. Edit one file in FLV player to tell it what size (640X480) the video is.

3. Upload the five FLV player files and his video to the folder.

In regards to web space I'm on Comcast and they just turned up personal web space from 25 meg to 1 gig. That's 1 gig for each of the seven email accounts you can create. That would be 70 movies like the one he just made.

The Dreamhost web hosting Superjett mentioned somewhere seems like a pretty good deal. I am very tempted to change to it in the future.

Movie maker isn't that great. It was Microsoft's attempt at competing with iMovie that had come out on the Macintosh. They try to make video editing too easy. Video editing is hard and time consuming.

Even hacked version of XP come with movie maker, or atleast can be added through add/remove programs, window's components. Then access it in start, all programs, accessories.

If you can in Pinnacle, encode with divX. That'll save space.
 

djkorn1

kidkornfilms
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Cleveland Ohio
:arms:I am ghetto! :arms: This is just a movie teaser...


I'll have the whole thing on DVD by February, so people can just get the DVD and copy it as much as they want and distribute it that way.
 

rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
Location
Portland, OR
Barry, you should be going to Daytona, CPR may be going if things work out.

If what I have in accounts receivable was in my bank account I might have considered it. Anyone who has run a business can understand that concept.

This year I plan on skipping the World Finals and going to Pismo instead in October. My brother is even planning on going too. If I'm on a position to do it the SFFR looks like fun from the video. I would attend them all if I could.
 

rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
Location
Portland, OR
:arms:I am ghetto! :arms: This is just a movie teaser...


I'll have the whole thing on DVD by February, so people can just get the DVD and copy it as much as they want and distribute it that way.
You could put an ISO image of your DVD on the web for people to download. With Dreamhost's ridiculously huge amounts of stuff they give you over 1000 people could download it a month.
 

guiness92

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Now that the excellent quality video is up it's time to go back and cover some other stuff.

Windows movie maker is installed when you install XP service pack 2. If he is ghetto, has had it installed a long time and is not doing updates because he is ghetto he might not have movie maker.

If Pinnacle is working for him what the heck. Edit, save as AVI and encode to FLV. Next he can get some web space and use FLV player:
FLV player
on the web site to play it.

All I did with his FLV video to put it on my site was:
1. Make a folder on my web site.

2. Edit one file in FLV player to tell it what size (640X480) the video is.

3. Upload the five FLV player files and his video to the folder.

In regards to web space I'm on Comcast and they just turned up personal web space from 25 meg to 1 gig. That's 1 gig for each of the seven email accounts you can create. That would be 70 movies like the one he just made.

The Dreamhost web hosting Superjett mentioned somewhere seems like a pretty good deal. I am very tempted to change to it in the future.

Movie maker isn't that great. It was Microsoft's attempt at competing with iMovie that had come out on the Macintosh. They try to make video editing too easy. Video editing is hard and time consuming.

Your not giving enough credit to Movie Maker. I have seen some amazing videos come out that were done with movie maker. Personally I use Vegas Video and tried to let DJ borrow it but it destroyed his ghetto version of windows :banghead: sorry about that again DJ. Editing movies, IMO is not hard at all, just time consuming. If it werent for movie maker, there wouldnt be a youtube.
 

djkorn1

kidkornfilms
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Cleveland Ohio
I love editing videos and making them move with music...however, I hate all the technical issues that seem to show up when you do them. I am not very computer savvy. While I am editing, I actually keep my computer offline so I don't get a virus or crash or have an update to the editing software kill my current project. I put about 22 hours in that little 7 minute blurb, so I am careful not to lose all that work. (It has happened a lot). I also don't spend a lot of money on equipment or software (Old version of Pinnacle 9) and a $30 ebay analog camera so that probably makes my job harder. I love the editing capabilities of Pinnacle, but it is a chunky program. The newer versions of it really suck (They made the program 3x as big to put in a bunch of advertisements for effects updates!) and they crash all the time, so I have been sticking with what works. I am still learning and still having fun with it...:1244:
 

rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
Location
Portland, OR
Your not giving enough credit to Movie Maker. I have seen some amazing videos come out that were done with movie maker. Personally I use Vegas Video and tried to let DJ borrow it but it destroyed his ghetto version of windows :banghead: sorry about that again DJ. Editing movies, IMO is not hard at all, just time consuming. If it werent for movie maker, there wouldnt be a youtube.
Movie maker is a OK for someone starting out to get a taste. For a couple minute Youtube clip it would be OK. It's amazing what the right person with enough dedication can do with any tool. I would like to see examples of the amazing videos made with MM.

If you plan to do something an hour long like DJ plans to do and have it look good better tools like Sony Vegas start at under $80.
 
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rasper99

Freighter wake hunter
Location
Portland, OR
I love editing videos and making them move with music...however, I hate all the technical issues that seem to show up when you do them. I am not very computer savvy. While I am editing, I actually keep my computer offline so I don't get a virus or crash or have an update to the editing software kill my current project. I put about 22 hours in that little 7 minute blurb, so I am careful not to lose all that work. (It has happened a lot). I also don't spend a lot of money on equipment or software (Old version of Pinnacle 9) and a $30 ebay analog camera so that probably makes my job harder. I love the editing capabilities of Pinnacle, but it is a chunky program. The newer versions of it really suck (They made the program 3x as big to put in a bunch of advertisements for effects updates!) and they crash all the time, so I have been sticking with what works. I am still learning and still having fun with it...:1244:
Sounds like you need to re-install windows from scratch to get a fresh start. It's a lot of pain but would save you time and frustration with your editing in the long run. Wish I was closer and could help.

Something you can do that might help is save often with a new name each time. Something like adding a version number to the end of the file name helps. Using version numbers isn't just so you can go back for creative reasons it's also good if you get a corrupted save.

Other things you can do are save, exit the program and restart the program. Most all video editing software is sloppy using RAM. This takes a few minutes but can save a lot more time than it takes. If you are going for an all day edit a reboot or two through the day doesn't hurt.

You might want to see if you are running out of RAM. Video editing loves RAM. On the task manager performance tab if you are under 10% free on physical RAM Windows will start choking.

If you are low on RAM 512 meg of most speeds of RAM is under $40. You said funds are tight but working a few hours somewhere to buy that would save you time even if you subtract the work hours.

Being frustrated kills your urge to do the project and affects the quality of the project. If you want something special done for openings or closings let me know.

Now for a little taste of what the right tools can do.
The Victoria secret girls
You don't want to know how long that took to figure out.
 

djkorn1

kidkornfilms
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Location
Cleveland Ohio
I am good in the RAM dept. Most of my problems were when I had my old computer. I haven't had a crash yet editing with this one. I am still overly cautious, however. I am not going to change programs. The one I have is working great right now, so I am going to stick with it!

Thanks for all the advice. If I have any issues I will try your solutions. I allready do multiple saves and do a lot of data burns on DVD in AVI format. I have hundreds of blank DVDs so this gives me a hard copy that can't be destroyed. :cool:
 

Nascency Chris

The Nascency Project
flash is the way...learn those flash encoders, they will love you forever...:biggrin:

all of my stuff is run at the 2500 bitrate, yes it bogs a little but like rasper said if you let it do its thing first then you are good...(patience is a virtue)...

dj how is your comp set up? do you run all of your video stuff from scratch discs (external hard drives or raid)? if not this might help...
 
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