Idok
F1pro
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How's this for a nights work?
- Thread starter Idok
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ewok
the offender
- Location
- st.augustine
boring
yes I can.!!!!I do boring work for alot of racers, mx, jet ski, guads, esc.
If you need something done saki give me a ring,I'll hook you up. all of my buddys get real good part hook ups too!!If you guys need something call me
(904)315-7770.thanks to IDOK for letting the word out. I thought all you guys
knew this???? later EWOK.....:fingersx:
yes I can.!!!!I do boring work for alot of racers, mx, jet ski, guads, esc.
If you need something done saki give me a ring,I'll hook you up. all of my buddys get real good part hook ups too!!If you guys need something call me
(904)315-7770.thanks to IDOK for letting the word out. I thought all you guys
knew this???? later EWOK.....:fingersx:
i didnt know you wanted the word out or i would have spilled the beans a long time ago:biggrin:
for anyone intrested ewok has done all my motors since i met him quad riding.he also does all the boring work for our local yamaha dealer.unlike most builders he will not bore without pistons.lucky for us hes a pro-x dealer too:wink:
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
hell no.........just need pistons in hand, and a little motivation never hurts....
we ordered pistons on thurs, had them tues...bored tues night, motors to be assembled tonite!
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
ewok
the offender
- Location
- st.augustine
saki!!!! your scaring me bro!!!!!!!!!!!I have a bigger bit than that! if you need me to hook you up on some pistons or boring call me. I put my # in one of the posts.let me know, I'll be that franken motor for you!!(it will probably run real good!!!!)later bro__________EWOK.:sneaky:
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
:rant:
went to assemble motor......on my BRAND NEW sbt crank found that the STOCK locater pins on teh cases are TOO LONG for the sbt bearing locator holes....
most specifically on the PTO bearing...however, the very center bearing was too long as well....
Ewok and i worked about 3-4 hours with just trying to get the crank mounted properly in THREE different sets of cases.......
so, after we stared at each other for awhile....we figured that this at least was the reason that the rear seals blew out when we assebled this motor 3 weeks ago...
E and motosurfer packed up at 4am this mornign to head to sbt....
I have pix and will upload soon..........
talked to motosurfer this morning....SBT's respnonse were that all or most are like that, and that all or most of the cases will require the locator pins to be shaved.....
:bs2:
we did it...but I dont think im cool with that..
:261:
oh, we also had numerous yami cranks lying around which ALL dropped into the cases like butta
went to assemble motor......on my BRAND NEW sbt crank found that the STOCK locater pins on teh cases are TOO LONG for the sbt bearing locator holes....
most specifically on the PTO bearing...however, the very center bearing was too long as well....
Ewok and i worked about 3-4 hours with just trying to get the crank mounted properly in THREE different sets of cases.......
so, after we stared at each other for awhile....we figured that this at least was the reason that the rear seals blew out when we assebled this motor 3 weeks ago...
E and motosurfer packed up at 4am this mornign to head to sbt....
I have pix and will upload soon..........
talked to motosurfer this morning....SBT's respnonse were that all or most are like that, and that all or most of the cases will require the locator pins to be shaved.....
:bs2: we did it...but I dont think im cool with that..
:261:
oh, we also had numerous yami cranks lying around which ALL dropped into the cases like butta
:rant:
went to assemble motor......on my BRAND NEW sbt crank found that the STOCK locater pins on teh cases are TOO LONG for the sbt bearing locator holes....
most specifically on the PTO bearing...however, the very center bearing was too long as well....
Ewok and i worked about 3-4 hours with just trying to get the crank mounted properly in THREE different sets of cases.......
so, after we stared at each other for awhile....we figured that this at least was the reason that the rear seals blew out when we assebled this motor 3 weeks ago...
E and motosurfer packed up at 4am this mornign to head to sbt....
I have pix and will upload soon..........
talked to motosurfer this morning....SBT's respnonse were that all or most are like that, and that all or most of the cases will require the locator pins to be shaved.....
we did it...but I dont think im cool with that..
:261:
oh, we also had numerous yami cranks lying around which ALL dropped into the cases like butta
i think your being a little dramatic there doogie:cheer:
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
you should have seen E :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes:
and where's the drama...all that's there are facts!
those locator pins arent bottomed out in the cases,they can be pressed in further if need be.i know that you know this.did you guys try?
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
hmm, I actually DIDNT know this..........intersting..........
E ground down the pin on the x cases...but that will not become a regular practice....
the OE holes on the bearings are SOO much deeper....you could see that even before we mic'd it..
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
ewok
the offender
- Location
- st.augustine
sbt crank problem!!!
Just following up on motor status! The center bearing divider, or fropper???as sbt calls it(new term to me?)was .0035 bigger than the bearing was. Know wonder why the crank wasn't going into cases all the way. Didn't we learn this in kindergarden, The square peg does not fit the round hole!!!Waiting to see what happens??E.
Just following up on motor status! The center bearing divider, or fropper???as sbt calls it(new term to me?)was .0035 bigger than the bearing was. Know wonder why the crank wasn't going into cases all the way. Didn't we learn this in kindergarden, The square peg does not fit the round hole!!!Waiting to see what happens??E.
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
st. aug crew patiently waiting for "I told you so"
:clown:
and E....according to sbt...the square peg WILL fit the round hole.......you just have to grind it round!
:bs2:
douglee25
m3booooy
- Location
- South Jersey
Interesting. I've never of such an issue before. I guess you can't chuck it up in a lathe, huh?
Doug
Doug
Idok
F1pro
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- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
you could, if you had the proper equipment to tear down a crank.....
it blows my (our whole crew's) mind....
you can set the crank into the cases.....see that there is a visible gap between the locater pins and bearings....
then the crank will actually rock (teeter totter) back and forth because the casting is too big......
we sent the cases and crank to sbt (on their dime).....they told us the tech's had "no problems putting them together"
:bs2:
Ewok is a factory cert yami watercraft mechanic, ducati mechanic, AMI grad etc...
he bores all of our motors (many of them running 200+ hours)....and they are telling him that it is an assembly error :bs2: :bs2: :bs2: :bs2:
all this AFTER they acutally got in the car, left at 4am and WENT to sbt the week before last with the cases, sbt crank, yami crank......
I used to defend sbt to the fact that many who have never tried their products would bash them...
we have given them a fair shake.......and they are blind (aka ignoring) to our efforts
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- St Augustine
Idok in under motosurfer:
update...just got the cases and crank back from sbt...
they torqued them together with visible gap betweena couple of places in the case..
the cases are under stress.......we showed it to E's father (Phd of metallurgy who specializes in 'wing design' for NASA) who stated that there is an obvious stress to the cases....(in best swiss accent)
according to SBT..nothing is wrong with any of the parts as noone in St. Augustine knows how to build a motor (including the certified professional motor builders )
Will be calling first thing in the AM to discuss resolution....So, this should be an excellent chance for SBT to shine in their customer service.
We will see :smile:
update...just got the cases and crank back from sbt...
they torqued them together with visible gap betweena couple of places in the case..
the cases are under stress.......we showed it to E's father (Phd of metallurgy who specializes in 'wing design' for NASA) who stated that there is an obvious stress to the cases....(in best swiss accent)
according to SBT..nothing is wrong with any of the parts as noone in St. Augustine knows how to build a motor (including the certified professional motor builders
)Will be calling first thing in the AM to discuss resolution....So, this should be an excellent chance for SBT to shine in their customer service.
We will see :smile: