on my sj i just put on a -2 turnplate. i have a -3.5 stock pole and a lowered bracket. i really liked the feel with the stock plate but love my new quick steering. with my new set-up i am all the way in front of my tray. it feels pretty uncomfortable and i cant get the nose up as high as before. i ride mostly at the lake and plan to ride surf a couple times a year. am i the only one that feels -6 is too short? maybe im possibly just looking for a reason to buy a new aftermarket pole.