Is it just me?

cspaghetti97

cspaghetti97

Location
Boston MA
Jonathan Gelesko said:
Another problem I find is that less people would even consider getting into this sport than what it used to be. Now a days people who own cottages or lake houses are at least at my lake, rich city people who own multi million dollar houses that spend 2 weeks a year our there. And of course those city people are not intrested in dedicating them self to a sport such as jet skiing because it's not what interests them. I know back when my dad was my age, all the people who owned cottages would spend the entire summer out there. And that would be their one "vacation" for the year.

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This has been a trend for a while. On the upside though, I have been seeing a lot more posts online about getting into the stand up sport and a bunch of people buying the old skis. This also has come with prices on old superjets and 650sx's going way to high. I test ride my ski at a small lake near my house, I have never seen another stand up there before until I rolled up last Saturday and there were 2 sxr, 1 brand new superjet a 750sx and a 650sx. I asked the guys about their skis and they all said they are new to riding stand ups and love it. Hoping this trend continues.
 
JFGJetski

JFGJetski

Location
Stevensville
cspaghetti97 said:
This has been a trend for a while. On the upside though, I have been seeing a lot more posts online about getting into the stand up sport and a bunch of people buying the old skis. This also has come with prices on old superjets and 650sx's going way to high. I test ride my ski at a small lake near my house, I have never seen another stand up there before until I rolled up last Saturday and there were 2 sxr, 1 brand new superjet a 750sx and a 650sx. I asked the guys about their skis and they all said they are new to riding stand ups and love it. Hoping this trend continues.
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I definetly agree with that, 4 years ago I was the only one besides 1 other on my lake with a 650sx then once I got my first superjet there was all the sudden 2 more 650s and 2 brand new superjets. Now there's 3 or 4 650s out there 3 superjets and a brand new sxr. I definetly belive the more people who see standups out there the more intrested people get which in return gets more people to enter the standup world..... I was talking with my dad a while back and he said stand ups were super popular back in the day then took a big dive in the early 2000s but now it seems like they are starting to make a comeback. I personally believe the best thing that could happen to this sport is if yamaha introduced a brand new superjet. Obviously they would have to abide by newer regulations so I'm not for sure if they would still be able to use two strokes sadly but that's a whole separate topic.

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JFGJetski

JFGJetski

Location
Stevensville
Storbeck said:
I must be living in a different world, around here a used stand up goes for a big premium over a couch and they are quite popular.
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That's probably more of a supply and demand thing, their are way more couches than stand ups now a days which in return sets a higher margin for stand ups.

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hornedogg79

hornedogg79

dodgin' bass boats
Probably not the right thread but I need to tell someone. I just fixed a seadoo Sportster for a guy in his 50s. First time boat owner so he asks me to run him through the basics. He pays me and leaves. This past Saturday I get a call. "Ran fine yesterday but can't get it started this morning... Also, I did like you said but we had a hell of a time getting this thing off the trailer. " What do you mean I reply. "Well I backed up until my tires were just touching the water. When we finally got the boat to slide off it was about a 2ft drop to the water... damn that thing is heavy." *Facepalm* I guess I was in shock because I somehow managed not to laugh. I tell him I meant his truck tires need to be around the water's edge. The trailer goes in the water. I think this bit of new info really helped him get it back on the trailer because he shows up at my house with it an hour later. Later Saturday evening I diagnosed it (out of gas) and had it started in about 30 seconds. Wife and I took it out Sunday for a test run only to discover the wear ring that looked pristine a week ago is now trashed. At least now I can tell him I repaired something instead of just adding gas.

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smokeysevin

smokeysevin

one man with a couch
Location
Houston
Couple of my own observations:

Facebook is accessible and ubiquitous, no extra step is required to use the groups. Yes, the information is kind of poop but for 80%+ of people, they can't tell if they are getting it from an expert or an idiot. It is less about knowing everything but more about knowing when you don't know, then learning who to ask, and figuring out if that is good information. (This is also a key aspect of our current political/news situation) I ask y'all for help because I know my limitations. I can assume that if you have never been exposed to forums/BBs/message boards you wouldn't think to look there. If you did look for a forum lots of the content is obstructed by a login/registration wall which can turn lazy people away.

I started using forums in 2004ish and adore them because you get the absolute specialists input on whatever the subject is. I wouldn't ask the general public about a specific part number but if I ask Y'all what the thread size and id of a Blowsion scupper for a superjet is, one of you will know. Hell, @JetManiac is an encyclopedia on almost any part.

The permanence of a forum is amazing (except for when photobucket photo-phuck'dit up for everyone). Being able to search (when the search function works) for content that dates back decades is incredible and also has shown how users and communities have changed. I have not used facebook in 8+ years so I am not sure if it is still the case but I remember when the feed "by time" feature was removed and content started being displayed by other algorithms. If you stick around long enough, you start to leave a mark and get to help give back to the place that helped you.

Lots of this is not nearly as generational as everyone thinks. (Disclosure: I was born in 1990) I have to help my dad (born 1959) keep from blowing stuff up more than I do my friends. Part of that is that he is not interested in this stuff, he wants to have a toy that he can put gas in, enjoy it, and ignore the not fun maintenance part of it. My friends and I (and you degenerates) are interested in modifying, ridding the crap out of stuff, and maintaining it so you can keep enjoying it. Additionally, it is really hard to be good at something you aren't interested in.

One major thing that the internet and social media has done that has major repercussions for our mechanical hobbies is giving idiots an easy platform to "show off" their work and "skills" I really feel like this normalizes a lot of bad habits and sketchy practices. That being said not everyone is an expert so we can't expect perfection all the time, especially when people are learning. I am just blown away when I see blatantly bad/dangerous stuff get praised. If I do something wrong or dangerous, I want it pointed out, that is how you improve.

Someone who thinks that they are an expert in something will be vocal about it even if they know only a little bit. (I am/was guilty of this but age and self reflection is helping me be better about it)

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Leave the world a better place than you found it.

Sean
 
Pro-pulsion

Pro-pulsion

Location
Ontario, Canada
smokeysevin said:
If I do something wrong or dangerous, I want it pointed out, that is how you improve

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This. Somewhere on here I have a 96 RN and 92 650sx build thread. I made a lot of mistakes but made sure to post them. I'm not a specialist in any department but try to be the best I can in all departments. Anything I started for builds or mods I researched the beans out of to try and not burden the site with repetitive threads. I posted my mistakes in hopes that anyone following and possibly taking notes would learn vicariously through me what not to do lol. It seems that in a good majority of researching, sadly, google was an invaluable tool for finding old threads with answers to some very specific questions. I have found if you put in the search, the actual question and search it, you'll be amazed at how much more specific your results usually turn out. But as mentioned, the lazy ones have no desire to spend hours reading and sometimes weeks searching for that answer.
 
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Pro-pulsion

Pro-pulsion

Location
Ontario, Canada
Big Kahuna said:
Saw one last night. Guy asking about a dry pipe, cannot find anything about it, it was really weird, Could not find any information or even mfg. Yet, there was a picture of the manifold which had "Factory Pipe" stamped on it.
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Maybe they thought it meant it was made as a test piece at the factory, it just didn't what factory lol :D
 
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Storbeck

Location
Minnesota
To be fair, it can be tricky to search for things. Typically how this works is you use the google search because the search built into the site doesn't work very well, then you get a bunch of links that are broken so you weed through or use the google search to find those old threads. Then you find a bunch of threads where somebody asked the exact question you have and go no response at all, or you find where somebody asked the exact question you have and one person said one thing, another person said the opposite, and an argument continued on for a few pages.

At some point you will see:

1. Ask your engine builder
2. if you can't afford it you should try another sport
3. That's not true if you ride surf (or that's not true if you ride flatwater)
4. (more recently) put a Zeeltronic on it (to be fair that is good advice)
5. (older threads) somebody all worked up about dynos

I find it helpful to search for one of the more knowledgeable usernames + whatever I want to know.
 
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